McLain and Sain…..Perfect together.....Should Johnny Sain be in the Hall of Fame ?

[iwantitiwinit]

I would like more info before making a decision if it's available. Since Sain was for the most part not the #1 ace on the staff I would think he faced lesser pitching opponents than the #1 ace thereby making it easier for him to accumulate wins as his team would naturally give him a bit more run support. I'd like to see his run support during his starts as compared to say Spahns during the same period. My initial thought is that his pitching and coaching career don't merit induction.

[packs]

I think he was a Tim Hudson level pitcher. Hudson isn't going to sniff induction, though he was very very good.

[brian1961]

Ted, I agree with you. Over 20 years ago, I began thinking about all the teams who hired Johnny Sain as their pitching coach. The man was remarkable, innovative, focused, and really knew what he was doing.

I also read why Mr. Sain was invariably released by each team, and it's a stinking shame each manager could not let their ego get in the way of allowing Johnny to do his job. There is so much involved to being a great manager; if a proven specialist comes on board to "manage" the pitchers, let the genius do his job, for crying out loud!!!!! Johnny Sain's pitchers loved him, and they blossomed. Again, the stuffy etc. etc. MLB Hall of Fame "drops the ball" in failing to recognize and enshrine a very deserving man from his rightful place of fame.

Take care, Ted, and Merry Christmas! --- Brian Powell

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Ted, I agree with you. Over 20 years ago, I began thinking about all the teams who hired Johnny Sain as their pitching coach. The man was remarkable, innovative, focused, and really knew what he was doing.

I also read why Mr. Sain was invariably released by each team, and it's a stinking shame each manager could not let their ego get in the way of allowing Johnny to do his job. There is so much involved to being a great manager; if a proven specialist comes on board to "manage" the pitchers, let the genius do his job, for crying out loud!!!!! Johnny Sain's pitchers loved him, and they blossomed. Again, the stuffy etc. etc. MLB Hall of Fame "drops the ball" in failing to recognize and enshrine a very deserving man from his rightful place of fame.

Take care, Ted, and Merry Christmas! --- Brian Powell

Hi Brian

I appreciate your input regarding Johnny Sain. It's good to see that some one else on this forum does his homework.

Brian....wishing you a very Merry Christmas


TED Z

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