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I had a similar issue with PSA last month; bought two P2 pins of Harry Lord from the Harry Lord collection auctioned by Saco River. Sent them in to PSA that said hundred year old pins/cards of a player owned by said player aren't important enough to be given a pedigree.
Maybe if Saco had sent the 15-20 in all at once with provenance from the family, but not just for the two items I won during the auction.
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It was well-known that Allen was submitting Carter's collection; that's a bit different with due respect than someone just walking up to their booth asking them to assess letters.
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While I concur with the others who say SGC doesn’t want to be in the provenance game on who used to own what, if they were going to do so, you looked prepared.
I kinda like the slabs with the hobby pioneer names on them. Not so seriously...Maybe had you told them about your dedication to the cause by eating two disgusting hot dogs...they could have been swayed. Eating the “lips and tails special” on the way in , instead of out...could’ve made the difference
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Next time drive to Simards Super Roast 10 minutes away. Better than the hotdog stand (I grew up in Wilmington Ma).
Sorry about your experience. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with SGC but I’m only submitting very common items. |
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I completely agree with Marchillo on both topics. Simahds (proper pronounciation..lol) is an elite eatery compared to the concession stand at Shriners. Gotta go "3 way king beef" to fully appreciate the excellence of such an establishment.
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I can tell you for a fact that one certain auction house used to get preferred treatment from PSA as I have experienced it first hand. I consigned a very large ungraded collection to Mastro back in 1999 and when discussing the collection and potential cards to grade, I was told by Brian Marren with Mastro to let them send the cards in to grade as any cards on the fence would get the bump to the higher grade.
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The larger issue that I agree with is known auction houses and huge dealers getting preferrential treament. How many times either here or on Facebook groups do you see jokes about Probstein/PWCC/4 Sharp Corners? Oh, that's a "4SC 8". The foundation of it goes back further than that. The evidence today is kind of scant, but it stands to reason depending on what you read - that back during Mastro's heyday the man employed a virtual department of card doctors. How many of those cards wound up in PSA slabs due to a cozy arrangment? It stands to reason at least some (and of course I'm not including here the example of the most expensive card in the hobby...) I've seen primers you can find on Google on card doctoring - corner restoration, etc. - and some of their examples of bad cards you can clearly see the card is IN a PSA slab while this is being pointed out. That kind of thing is the more egregous stuff. What you do increasingly see evidence of is auction house submits a card with a wrinkle on the back that gets a 6, Joe Blow collector submits the same card and gest a 4. I don't have personal evidence of this but I've seen enough examples to more or less believe it's true.
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