Kudos to LOTG - discovered counterfeit #311 1952 Mantle PSA 1 in latest auction

[Hankphenom]

I wonder if the consignor has done anything, like try to get his money back or call the cops.

[pokerplyr80]

I would like to know who wrote the description for the 52 Mantle for this auction. Because obviously that person looked at the card but somehow missed the fact that it was an obvious fake. I have nothing against Al of lotg personally, but way too many members are giving them a pass for putting a terrible card into their auction. Doing the right thing after it was pointed out to them does not excuse including this card in their auction.

[Bicem]

Sorry we let you down Jesse. Apologies to you, the Mantle family and everyone else involved.

[pokerplyr80]

I appreciate that Jeff but no apology is owed to me personally. One is owed to your consignor and anyone who bid on this lot. We should be able to count on a major auction house to at least review any piece that is included in an auction. That someone could have studied this piece enough to write an elaborate description and yet couldn't see that it was a fake leads us as customers to question the credibility of your entire operation. I may be the only one not drinking the kool aid but I am extremely disappointed that you guys couldn't tell this was a fake card.

[Bicem]

Sorry to lose you as a "customer," you'll be missed for sure.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Sorry to lose you as a "customer," you'll be missed for sure.

man if thats how customers are treated in the hobby (afterall its not like the hobby is exploding with new buyers of thousand dollar cards that jessie buys) i feel sorry for how customers of non 1000 dollar cards are treated..

Jessie does make a point that there was time for an elaborate write-up but appears to be oversight on looking a very sought after card that is also subject to fraud. I get that everything was made right in the end but i dont think that type of comment serves anyone and is good for the hobby.....

[BLongley]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

man if thats how customers are treated in the hobby (afterall its not like the hobby is exploding with new buyers of thousand dollar cards that jessie buys) i feel sorry for how customers of non 1000 dollar cards are treated..

Jessie does make a point that there was time for an elaborate write-up but appears to be oversight on looking a very sought after card that is also subject to fraud. I get that everything was made right in the end but i dont think that type of comment serves anyone and is good for the hobby.....

I think at this point Jesses comments are just getting a bit old to them and Jeff is frustrated... the quotations on "customer" I assume may mean Jesse has never purchased anything through them... those that have such as myself are the ones defending them because they are a solid honest shop and when a mistake happens they do everything they can to take care of their customers.

LOTG has apologized on numerous accounts, the consignor accepted their apology, the winning bidder accepted their apology, but Jesse can't move on...I guess he will take this one to his grave. There is no time machine and the true character of an individual is shown in how they handle mistakes.

Goldin Auctions listed a 68 topps Bench as a Venezuela topps two months ago and only pulled it after people questioned it...in their description they called it one of the finest 68 Bench VZs in existence.... no one is perfect... move on...

Brian Longley

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Sorry to lose you as a "customer," you'll be missed for sure.

And I'm sorry that an "auction house" can't identify such a terrible fake without having it pointed out to them by one of their customers. Yes we all make mistakes, but if you let this one in what else is getting by?