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Old 08-01-2018, 08:49 PM
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Why are there two grades next to the 4.5 Joe Jackson? And neither are a 4.5, but instead would be 3 and 5.5?
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Why are there two grades next to the 4.5 Joe Jackson? And neither are a 4.5, but instead would be 3 and 5.5?
Just a guess here, but a 4 is considered VG-EX, so a 4.5 would be VG-EX+. SGC just divided the "VG-EX+" into those 2 little hexagons.


I am disappointed that the SGC holder is the same and that the edge seal was not improved to be more tamper evident.

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Old 08-01-2018, 10:32 PM
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I had an opportunity to check out the new changes today at the showroom setup. I was also told by a representative that new holders are coming “soon", and that this is phase 1 of 3 of things to expect.
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I had an opportunity to check out the new changes today at the showroom setup. I was also told by a representative that new holders are coming “soon", and that this is phase 1 of 3 of things to expect.
Ah, nice. Thanks!
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Old 08-02-2018, 03:31 AM
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Is the gold chipped along the top left of that SGC Mint 9 Ramly? I do like that they have labeled it sheet cut. Wonder what the value difference between that card and a PSA 9 would be.
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SGC just divided the "VG-EX+" into those 2 little hexagons.
Agreed.
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Just a guess here, but a 4 is considered VG-EX, so a 4.5 would be VG-EX+. SGC just divided the "VG-EX+" into those 2 little hexagons.


I am disappointed that the SGC holder is the same and that the edge seal was not improved to be more tamper evident.
Chuck,

Haven't really paid attention. Is this for certain? They are using the same
type holder with seal?
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Not a fan of big label numbers either, but this is a massive upgrade. The old labels were probably the worst in the industry. They finally have a 21st century look.
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I saw a Wagner SGC 4 with the new flip and it looked fantastic. The non-colored flip (instead of red or green) allows the card to dominate instead of a clash of colors getting in the way. The size of the number grade is a little large but not a big deal to me. I much prefer the new grading scale, as well as all the technological advancements, available scans, ability to make offers, reduction of the human element, etc. SGC's product is far superior and better looking to PSA's at this point; they will need to fix their registry to compete and, therefore, get higher returns on registry-type cards.

As for new holders, I am told they are being worked on. What I was happy to see was real innovation at SGC, which is unlike anything I've seen in the TPG industry in years if ever. I suspect this will push PSA to get off their asses in both the quality of their product and service, all good things to happen.

Bottom line is that I'll be sending in all of my high-value cards/postcards to SGC to be reholdered shortly.
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Chuck,

Haven't really paid attention. Is this for certain? They are using the same
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As of right now there are, Tony. According to Brian, though, in post #102, SGC is working on a new holder to be released later on.
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Chuck,

Thanks. Hope it works out. I would eventually update some stuff into
the new holders and new flip. At first glance, I like them.
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Even though I am not a SGC customer, it is good to see them trying to better their business model and products. Long overdue, in my opinion.

It is amazing to me, that after all these years, a person has no way to verify a SGC serial on the website. That doesn't sit well with me.
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