Help with Jackson and Wagner ID's

[Robinsol1887]

What does that mean ?

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by Robinsol1887

What does that mean ?

It means you are the new member and the answer is no.

Did either attend Polytechnic Institute in New York? No.

[drcy]

Beyond that no one in the photo looks like either of the two, that is a college neither of them went to. The famously illiterate Jackson didn't go to college, much less up to one up North.

However, the Polytechnic Institute is now New York University's engineering school, so you can say that's sort of an NYU baseball team-- and college baseball photos are definitely collectible.

[Robinsol1887]

There was a Gilbert Polytechnic Institute in Pennsylvania from the mid 1880s through the early 1920s. Honus was from Pennsylvania. I compared his face to his Warner and Patterson photos and there is a resemblance.

[Dewey]

Originally Posted by Robinsol1887

There was a Gilbert Polytechnic Institute in Pennsylvania from the mid 1880s through the early 1920s. Honus was from Pennsylvania. I compared his face to his Warner and Patterson photos and there is a resemblance.

No. Honus dropped out of school at age 12. Wikipedia is your friend.

[Robinsol1887]

Correction: Wikipedia is not your friend. How long does it take for researchers or “Wikipedia’s” to actually correct and edit and upload the proper information that the public posts to that site? Honus went to school until he was 13 or 14 and then he worked at his brothers barbershop. However many baseball players at that time played for colleges, clubs and leagues of schools they didn’t attend school etc.

[Robinsol1887]

I do want to clarify that I am the new member. I reached out to the site via a couple of close researcher friends. I have a tobacco era through dead ball era baseball collection that my dad left me when I was a kid after he died. I was fortunate enough to identify most of my pieces and place them in new homes with people who too are passionate about baseball. I’m simply trying to identify my last few pieces. I have about five or six other cabinet photographs as well. I have a comparison photos of Honus with the above picture. The picture of Joe Jackson is actually from a cabinet photo of a team called the Orphan boys. I don’t know if either is Honus or Joe however the people I’ve researched with felt it was the logical Lead. When I reached out to the site Leon offered to post this for me. I will post the comparison photos. I’m just looking for help with my research

[Robinsol1887]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...CSxanIAlibUKmU

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hM9vOK4TgC-k-0

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-I...v7QgMd8AF17Mgk

[drcy]

I think wikipedia is an okay start for research, but obviously has to be double checked with other sources.

A problem I have with wikipedia is that their 'concept' articles (cognitive psychology, quantum mechanics, Hinduism philosophy, whatever) are not well written and can make the subject more complicated and convoluted than necessary. The articles should be introductory, but they sometimes needlessly throw in everything but the kitchen sink. There are someties far better, and more concise, articles on the web. That may be due to a wikipedia article being written by multiple authors.

That was my aside commentary.

[Michael B]

I would agree with David that this is the Polytechnic Institute from New York City. The photographic studio is the clue. This photo was done at one of several photo studios owned by Edward C. Dana in Manhattan. His first studio was in Brooklyn. In the 1870's and 1880's he opened 3 in Manhattan - 14th St. and 6th Ave., 872 Broadway and 28th and Broadway. He later opened a second Brooklyn location. His portrait galleries in Manhattan were quite busy as he produced images of many of the Broadway stars of the day. It is highly unlikely that he or any of his assistants would have travelled the approximately 100 miles to Polk Township, PA to photograph a small school team. Gilbert Polytechnic would probably have used a studio in Stroudsburg or Easton which were much closer.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Robinsol1887

I do want to clarify that I am the new member. I reached out to the site via a couple of close researcher friends. I have a tobacco era through dead ball era baseball collection that my dad left me when I was a kid after he died. I was fortunate enough to identify most of my pieces and place them in new homes with people who too are passionate about baseball. I’m simply trying to identify my last few pieces. I have about five or six other cabinet photographs as well. I have a comparison photos of Honus with the above picture. The picture of Joe Jackson is actually from a cabinet photo of a team called the Orphan boys. I don’t know if either is Honus or Joe however the people I’ve researched with felt it was the logical Lead. When I reached out to the site Leon offered to post this for me. I will post the comparison photos. I’m just looking for help with my research

I'm willing to help.

It's not Joe Jackson and it's not Honus Wagner.

[Dewey]

Wow, I was a dick last night. No way to welcome a new member. My apologies.

[Robinsol1887]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I'm willing to help.

It's not Joe Jackson and it's not Honus Wagner.

Help wanted. If you scroll down through the thread I’ve attached three Google docs that I have been working on. Please feel free to skim through them and share any input you might have

[Robinsol1887]

Originally Posted by Dewey

It means you are the new member and the answer is no.

Did either attend Polytechnic Institute in New York? No.

There were many Polytechnic Institutes in the United States in the late 19th century early 20th century. One of which was Gilbert polytechnic institute in Pennsylvania. Click the link below

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...CSxanIAlibUKmU