Which years are Jeter's rookie card?

HasselhoffsCheeseburger · #1 07-08-2018, 06:29 PM

Personally, I think the whole rookie shield thing is patently absurd. Setting that aside, I've never heard anyone refer to a year other than 1993 as Jeter's rookie cards.

I think the market is translated as many different ways as the bible. You can't just say "these 1996 cards sell for more than the 1993 cards so therefore the market considers them rookie cards as well." That's false logic. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any '93 Jeter cards that are true rarities, whereas there are many low-print run parallels in '96 that will sell for a small fortune no matter what the grade. That doesn't make them rookies.

Arthur

Rookiemonster · #2 07-08-2018, 07:10 PM

I agree for 1993 only because I grew up 10 miles away from the stadium and was attending big shows at that time. I have always been a Yankees fan so I clearly remember that the 93 sp was offered as his rookie later in 94 and 95 when I first heard of him. Later when he gain more popularity
I�ve said this before but I remember that he 1993 stadium club was not found as easy. The stadium club Murphy box set was printed in 1992 and was in the 1992 stadium club design. So I would call that his first card.

But technically you can�t have a rookie card until You played in the majors(1996). Anything before is a prospect card.

steve B · #3 07-08-2018, 07:12 PM

So 1992 little sun - Not a rookie because it's only a HS prospects set.
1993 - ROOKIE!! even though he played no games and wouldn't for a couple years.
1994 signature rookies - Not a rookie since it's just a prospects set.
1995 Not a rookie because duh, the rookie is the 1993......

That's a bit more involved than some modern players, but not by much. McGwire had the 85 which was then wasn't the rookie, or the 87s.

The whole thing is pretty much pointless for modern cards anyway, since they are saved in quantity instead of being routinely thrown out after 3-4 years.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 07-08-2018, 07:25 PM

To me, at least pre the official designation, the first appearance in a major league base set from one of the major licensed manufacturers is the rookie card. Whether or not he was playing at the time. And there can NEVER be rookie cards from more than one year.

Beckett I think basically had it right although the XRC was really stupid IMO.

steve B · #5 07-09-2018, 10:48 AM

That works in most cases, but I've always seen it as being very artificial. I tend to read it as
"Whatever card was issued closest to the players first year and in enough quantity that dealers can easily capitalize on it. "

So the XRCs are that because not every dealer bothered to buy the update sets.
It's even sillier that it holds for the year they sold the update cards in packs as well as the sets. Not like recently, whichever year the did it in the 80's I've just forgotten the year.

drcy · #6 07-18-2018, 01:30 PM

Two points. The market doesn't think that, and the market can be wrong.

I'm not even sure what is meant by 'market.' Does he mean values? If so, value isn't a definer-- see '52 Topps versus '51 Bowman Mantle.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 07-18-2018, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy

Two points. The market doesn't think that, and the market can be wrong.

I'm not even sure what is meant by 'market.' Does he mean values? If so, value isn't a definer-- see '52 Topps versus '51 Bowman Mantle.

No, it isn't a question of values, it's a question of what's the rookie card.

irv · #8 07-18-2018, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal

The 93 SP is his most recognized card, so I view the SP and Stadium Club as rookies

Jeter has a few others I like from 95 and 96 - the Leaf Signature is fantastic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy

Two points. The market doesn't think that, and the market can be wrong.

I'm not even sure what is meant by 'market.' Does he mean values? If so, value isn't a definer-- see '52 Topps versus '51 Bowman Mantle.

That's the trouble with "Modern" way too many RC's exist.
This is a list of his recognized RC's, but as you will see, they are categorized from least to most desirable which makes picking his "True, singular RC" practically impossible.
https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...r-rookie-cards

I have been looking at John Tavares RC's, and although his Young Guns RC is pretty much thought to be his "true" RC, many others from the same 09-10 season also exist.

I am not sure if Jeter has that one card like Tavares does, however?

homerunderby · #9 08-10-2018, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To me, at least pre the official designation, the first appearance in a major league base set from one of the major licensed manufacturers is the rookie card. Whether or not he was playing at the time. And there can NEVER be rookie cards from more than one year.

Beckett I think basically had it right although the XRC was really stupid IMO.

This. At least for me. The 1992 Classics are nice but they are "pre-rookies" to me. Does anyone else still use that term? The 1993 Topps, Bowman, Upper Deck, and SP are the rookies to me. 1996 aren't rookies and parallels to 1993 aren't rookies either, though they are very collectable.

XRC as I remember was a term before "Traded" sets were considered real rookies. Traded sets have been around almost 40 years, I think they are here to stay

T205 GB · #10 08-14-2018, 09:42 AM

What about the 93 Topps and Topps gold draft pick card? Just happen to find a tote full of packs.

Any guesses as to how many Jeters I will find?

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