T5 Pinkerton mystery cards

[jeffmohler]

Here is a Strunk that I picked up on Ebay. I probably paid too much, but i like this little subset!

[jeffmohler]

I sure wish I could see the Cleveland player posted above. I would dearly love to know if this subset is made up of just Athletics or whether it includes other cards.

[T206Jim]

Ok, here is the latest addition to the set. I recently acquired these two Pinkertons. The McBride measures 4 x 6, is on thin photo paper and appears to have a thin paste residue at the top of the back. The Lord is 3 11/16 x 6 and is on the thicker postcard like stock, clearly it is part of the mystery set. I am unsure what the McBride is as it appears larger that most Pinkerton T5 photos.

Pinkerton McBride front.jpg Pinkerton McBride back.jpg



Pinkerton Lord front.jpg Pinkerton Lord back.jpg



Pinkerton-McBride---Lord.jpg

The photo quality on the mystery set is clearly superior.

Also of note is the Van Oeyen 1910 copyright embossed on the Lord. It is printed in the photo and is not applied directly embossed on this photo. Nice evidence of the age and photographer of some T5s and likely this mystery set.

Pinkerton Lord front emboss.jpg

[jeffmohler]

The McBride is a photo that was detached from the mount of a T5 cabinet. The strip of glue residue at the top of the rear part of the photo is the giveaway. Originally T5 cabinet card photos were attached only by a strip of glue at the top of the photo. A fair number of the cabinet photos have become detached from the mount over the years.

Lord is very interesting. None of the other cards in the mystery set have that embossing on it. I wonder if Van Oeyen, being located in Cleveland, included Philadelphia A's and Cleveland players in a limited run production of "postcard" sized photos. Now I really want to hold in hand the Cleveland photos reference earlier in this thread.

[jeffmohler]

I was happy to pick this card of Harry Davis. It is definately part of the "mystery" set. Has anyone else picked anything up in the last couple of years since the last post?

[Bjw1978]

I have a couple of 1911 T5 Pinkerton's (D. Jones & Stanage). They were originally on a cardboard mount. But have been unattached (you can see the thin strip of glue residue at the top of the back of the card/photo).

Those can be graded by PSA and SGC. But without the mount (i.e. photo with blank back), has anyone been successful in getting one graded as a "1911 T5 Pinkerton?"

[Leon]

I don't think I have seen a T5 photo unmounted, slabbed. As long as they label it as what it is, I don't have an issue with an AUT....

and my Pinkerton type...

Originally Posted by Bjw1978

I have a couple of 1911 T5 Pinkerton's (D. Jones & Stanage). They were originally on a cardboard mount. But have been unattached (you can see the thin strip of glue residue at the top of the back of the card/photo).

Those can be graded by PSA and SGC. But without the mount (i.e. photo with blank back), has anyone been successful in getting one graded as a "1911 T5 Pinkerton?"