how rare is this set?

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Am I alone in thinking that the white letter on the back should not be recognized as the variation and, instead, it's the grey letter that should be considered the variation?

Grey letters on the back occur on ALL silver signature cards. White letters on the back occur on ALL regular base. The odd man out are the handful of regular base that have the grey letters on the back.

It should be the grey (or, more accurately, silver) letter variation.

Arthur

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

Am I alone in thinking that the white letter on the back should not be recognized as the variation and, instead, it's the grey letter that should be considered the variation?

Grey letters on the back occur on ALL silver signature cards. White letters on the back occur on ALL regular base. The odd man out are the handful of regular base that have the grey letters on the back.

It should be the grey (or, more accurately, silver) letter variation.

Arthur

Arthur,

The 6 cards you mentioned:
642 Johnny Damon
643 Brad Fulmer
645 Derek Lee
646 Alex Ochoa
647 Alex Rodriguez
650 Preston Wilson

I think for their base cards the most common form is the card with a grey/silver letter, but some of the factory sets contain the cards that match the other cards from the subset with the white letters. The only packs I've opened of 94 CC was when I was I kid back around 1994, so I'm not 100% on that though.

Strangely enough, the the silver signature white letter version of the Arod has a grey/silver A on the back and the Jeter silver signature white letter cards have the white D. I'm wondering if the other cards you listed come with the grey/silver letter on the back of the silver signature white letters. I have a few of the other guys in silver signature white letter, so I'll try to dig them up and check.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

Arthur,

The 6 cards you mentioned:
642 Johnny Damon
643 Brad Fulmer
645 Derek Lee
646 Alex Ochoa
647 Alex Rodriguez
650 Preston Wilson

I think for their base cards the most common form is the card with a grey/silver letter, but some of the factory sets contain the cards that match the other cards from the subset with the white letters. The only packs I've opened of 94 CC was when I was I kid back around 1994, so I'm not 100% on that though.

That very well may be. In fact, we may be looking at something that turns out to be nothing. At this point, are any of the known base cards particularly rare? Doesn't seem so at all.

• Silver Letter on Back -- Damon, Fulmer, Lee, Ochoa, Rodriguez, Wilson. All found easily enough in wax packs. I pulled 4 from the one box I opened.

• Pack-Issued White Letter -- All the players beside the above, not difficult to find, every Jeter has this. Pulled these from the same box that I pulled the above silver letters.

• Silver Letter Players with White Letters -- Damon, Fulmer, Lee, Ochoa, Rodriguez, and Wilson but instead of the silver letter that is found in packs they have the white letter and are found in factory sets.

That's it for the regular base cards. I don't believe there's been a single example of a base card deviating from those categories. If that turns out to be the case, we technically have variations but none of them would carry much of a premium as they're all somewhat readily available in existing product.

Am I wrong?

Arthur

[lowpopper]

What is the difference between the [base future foundations] and
the [base "white letter" future foundations]? The grading companies
make a differentiation. Is this just an oversight?

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

What is the difference between the [base future foundations] and
the [base "white letter" future foundations]? The grading companies
make a differentiation. Is this just an oversight?

Those slabs are referring to the white letter on the back, not the white letters on the front. The PSA slab that doesn't mention it is just a card that was graded before PSA acknowledged the variation. All three cards in those scans are exactly the same (except for their condition) and are the only known version of Jeter base card for the set.

What we're slowly piecing together in this thread is that, as it turns out, there is no variation for some of these base cards (like Jeter) and for the base cards that do have a variation there is no rarity attached and hence no value premium applied.

Arthur

[jacksoncoupage]

All future foundation silver signature cards can be found with white lettering on front (much scarcer) instead of the normal silver lettering on front.

As mentioned in this thread, only a handful of the FF cards have both a white and silver 1st letter of text on back variation. For example, ALL base issue Derek Jeter cards have the white 1st letter on back, NO GRAY VERSION EXISTS.

[Hatorade]

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