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Old 05-07-2018, 10:37 PM
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I'd like to know why it's referred to still as the color barrier when there were clearly players of color in the majors, many with African blood from Cuba. It was an African-American barrier they broke, but players of color were in the majors for years before Robinson came along. I think those players get lost in the history of the sport when you talk about paving the way.

I also agree on Doby and any other players right after Robinson, because if those players did something "wrong" while fighting back the racism they endured, then who knows how things would have went from there.

A pet peeve of mine is lazy history, such as crediting one person for an event. A great example would be the midnight run of Paul Revere. When you learn the real history of that event, then it looks ridiculous to celebrate just Revere. Major League Baseball takes the lazy route with celebrating the breaking of the color barrier by putting everything on one player when so many other players deserve credit too.
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I'd like to know why it's referred to still as the color barrier when there were clearly players of color in the majors, many with African blood from Cuba. It was an African-American barrier they broke, but players of color were in the majors for years before Robinson came along. I think those players get lost in the history of the sport when you talk about paving the way.

I also agree on Doby and any other players right after Robinson, because if those players did something "wrong" while fighting back the racism they endured, then who knows how things would have went from there.

A pet peeve of mine is lazy history, such as crediting one person for an event. A great example would be the midnight run of Paul Revere. When you learn the real history of that event, then it looks ridiculous to celebrate just Revere. Major League Baseball takes the lazy route with celebrating the breaking of the color barrier by putting everything on one player when so many other players deserve credit too.
Lazy history is easier to digest. For example, if you really study Germany in the 1930s, the rise of the Nazi party is a heck of a lot more complicated than just one tyrant.
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Why didnt MLB celebrate the barrier of deafness to play in MLB? I can understand and love what MLB is doing for Jackie Robinson but why cant Dummy Hoy find himself in HOF or for us to celebrate his achieve in time matters. We have million of deaf / hard of hearing children out there would love to know about him and feel that they have a good shot of playing baseball.

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Why didnt MLB celebrate the barrier of deafness to play in MLB? I can understand and love what MLB is doing for Jackie Robinson but why cant Dummy Hoy find himself in HOF or for us to celebrate his achieve in time matters. We have million of deaf / hard of hearing children out there would love to know about him and feel that they have a good shot of playing baseball.

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Not to be insensitive, my wife actually collects major leaguers with disabilities, but deaf players were never banned from playing. Yes both groups were discriminated against, but the level of discrimination isn't comparable unless deaf people were enslaved and once freed, occasioanlly lynched because they were deaf.
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Old 05-08-2018, 12:17 PM
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Baseball developed it's current signaling system as a result of players like Dummy Hoy and maybe even Hoy himself if the legend is true. That's a pretty significant contribution to make to the game, one that endures and seemingly has no end in sight. I think that's something baseball can acknowledge.
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I’d love to learn more about the impact of hearing impaired people on the game. Can someone make a separate post on that? At the same time I don’t think that that detracts from the focus of this thread which is also important.
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