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Old 05-04-2018, 03:44 PM
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Every auction house will tell you how great their system is. Yet I can’t think of a another line of business out there that functions in a way where auctions close at midnight or after. Christie’s sells 500M paintings. Silly I guess that they don’t close these sales at modnogjt.
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Old 05-04-2018, 03:53 PM
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Every auction house will tell you how great their system is. Yet I can’t think of a another line of business out there that functions in a way where auctions close at midnight or after. Christie’s sells 500M paintings. Silly I guess that they don’t close these sales at modnogjt.

We are all alittle nuts about buying this stuff. Steve, if you really want something in the auction i suggest you do this Sunday so you’re ready to bid.

1. Go to church
2. Walk the dog
3. Polish the pewter

Then stay up and win the item you’re interested in. You can sleep in on Monday.
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Joe,

Your experience with Heritage is what I was talking about in terms of lots getting to retail quicker than the all-night bidding, the vast majority of those that never got another hit after the 11:00 hour were probably already full priced or the next increment would have placed them over market.

On the one lot that I won in Heritage(two auctions ago), Myself and another bidder began battling at the start of the extended bidding when I came in to place what I would hope would be the winning bid at 10:59 and played ping-pong for nearly an hour, more than doubling the price of the item from when we started, I am sure you can guess what it was

If that would have been a 4-5am auction, I would not have bid until I got the final notice or warning and chances are he was not around to bid as there would not have been one bid since he was the high bid before the extended bidding, thus no reason for him to even think he might get outbid. The premise of an auction and especially a successful one for the consignor is to create a bidding war and that can only be done when all of the qualified and interested bidders are front and center and battling it out. Thus a higher sales price, the more bids the higher the price.

As others have said, there is no 100% answer and you just have to plan each auction around the bidding parameters.

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Old 05-04-2018, 05:03 PM
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Scott - sound reasoning but remember one minor fact. Who’s to say if cards are AT or NEAR retail, someone won’t place another bid? I’m sure both you and I have surpsssrd retail cost many times to capture a lot we really wanted. Thus, more bids/$$$$ for the Consignor and an opportunity to win another lot.
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Every auction house will tell you how great their system is. Yet I can’t think of a another line of business out there that functions in a way where auctions close at midnight or after. Christie’s sells 500M paintings. Silly I guess that they don’t close these sales at modnogjt.
maybe you should just collect art, which apparently is easier. talk about worrying about the deck chairs on the titanic.
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maybe you should just collect art, which apparently is easier. talk about worrying about the deck chairs on the titanic.
Yeah, but I’m not sure the fine art world has chatboards on which you can complain about auction rules and shipping speed.
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Yeah, but I’m not sure the fine art world has chatboards on which you can complain about auction rules and shipping speed.
"I can't believe that buyers premium and shipping charges on that giacometti...reeeeee-diculous!"
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Old 05-04-2018, 04:42 PM
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Yeah, but I’m not sure the fine art world has chatboards on which you can complain about auction rules and shipping speed.
I’m sure they do.
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I’m sure they do.
if there are, guaranteed you’d find them to complain how you missed a noon auction because you were stuck on the subway. stupid art auctions.

also, I’m sure you know this because you seem so familiar with Christies and the like, but for those who don’t, in your apples to oranges comparison of $500 million art auctions to REA and others, most of the bidders hire agents to do their bidding, paying them one or two percent of what they spend to handle their bidding. so the time of the auctions are pretty much irrelevant in terms of convenience for the buyers.

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I think the worst aspect of the auction is the fact that initial bids are cutoff at 9 am pst on the final day. That seems way too early as a bidder who often visits an auction website the final day. The late close doesnt bother me. If you want to go to bed early just put in your max bid before you do so.
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I think the worst aspect of the auction is the fact that initial bids are cutoff at 9 am pst on the final day. That seems way too early as a bidder who often visits an auction website the final day. The late close doesnt bother me. If you want to go to bed early just put in your max bid before you do so.
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I missed some stuff I wanted to bid on during the Fall auction because I didn’t realize the initial bidding session would end so early here in AZ. I learned my lesson and put all my initial bids in early this time around.
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