1956 Mantle PSA 5....What is this sticker?? (Purple Label Company)

A2000 · #1 05-04-2018, 03:18 PM

The owner of purplesticker/slabsticker has this Johnny Bench in a 1 grade for sale with a purple sticker. Looks like a 1 to me

swarmee · #2 05-04-2018, 04:05 PM

Ah, that's reasonable. Card has very high eye appeal for a 1, presuming the back is clean. Most Bench RCs are *edit: more* off-center.

Paul S · #3 05-04-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by A2000

The owner of purplesticker/slabsticker has this Johnny Bench in a 1 grade for sale with a purple sticker. Looks like a 1 to me

Except for the corners, staining and centering, it could have been a 2!

bobbyw8469 · #4 05-04-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul S

Except for the corners, staining and centering, it could have been a 2!

you missed three spider wrinkles on the bottom......horrible card to get a sticker.

ruth_rookie · #5 05-04-2018, 05:36 PM

I was his first customer and got 2 for 2...

all kidding aside, there's no doubt that all 5's are not equal. Nor 6's. Nor 7's, etc. The question is "are people willing to pay for a third party to make that assessment?" we've already paid good money to have it graded, and now we pay again. not sure what the answer is. only time and the market will tell. can't blame someone for giving it a go, however. I wish you luck in your new endeavor. who knows, maybe it will pan out.

bobbyw8469 · #6 05-04-2018, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

I was his first customer and got 2 for 2...

all kidding aside, there's no doubt that all 5's are not equal. Nor 6's. Nor 7's, etc. The question is "are people willing to pay for a third party to make that assessment?" we've already paid good money to have it graded, and now we pay again. not sure what the answer is. only time and the market will tell. can't blame someone for giving it a go, however. I wish you luck in your new endeavor. who knows, maybe it will pan out.

He's GOT to do a better job if he wants people to take him seriously. The 1956 Mantle with the star as well as the Johnny Bench rookie with the star are absolute jokes. Shoot, you can also say the 1965 Pete Rose PSA 9 with the star is a joke too...what is it gonna get, a '10'??? I don't think so. I can show him some cards to look so good for the grade it will make his head spin.

CobbSpikedMe · #7 05-04-2018, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I can show him some cards to look so good for the grade it will make his head spin.

Those are the ones you need to send in to him to get the Purple Sticker!! Go for it man!

Leon · #8 05-06-2018, 08:30 PM

These folks are doing pre-war too so the thread was moved to the main page for discussion (as requested in the other thread)

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

I was his first customer and got 2 for 2...

all kidding aside, there's no doubt that all 5's are not equal. Nor 6's. Nor 7's, etc. The question is "are people willing to pay for a third party to make that assessment?" we've already paid good money to have it graded, and now we pay again. not sure what the answer is. only time and the market will tell. can't blame someone for giving it a go, however. I wish you luck in your new endeavor. who knows, maybe it will pan out.

mq711 · #9 05-06-2018, 08:48 PM

Would be a nice touch to add exact centering numbers to such a service; 50/50 or 70/30 T/B would be more beneficial than another opinion of an already graded card, at least to me.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #10 05-06-2018, 08:50 PM

Just makes me laugh that most of the arguments against the service are the self-same arguments against tpg's lo those many years ago.

Rookiemonster · #11 05-06-2018, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

I was his first customer and got 2 for 2...

all kidding aside, there's no doubt that all 5's are not equal. Nor 6's. Nor 7's, etc. The question is "are people willing to pay for a third party to make that assessment?" we've already paid good money to have it graded, and now we pay again. not sure what the answer is. only time and the market will tell. can't blame someone for giving it a go, however. I wish you luck in your new endeavor. who knows, maybe it will pan out.

Congrats one the big green stars ! They look great on the holder! I would give those green stars a purple star.

Rich Klein · #12 05-07-2018, 04:10 AM

I saw a thread on the post-war board which said: Show me your under-graded cards.

Here is the link to that thread which is currently running:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=250623

In addition, how often do we as a group note: "That card has great eye appeal for a 1" or "Looks like a higher grade to me".

I can not make any assumptions about the creator of this site but to me, it sounds hypocritical to complain about something like this if we ourselves constantly brag about such cards. He is looking for an underserved part of the market and I understand the point. Now, we may not agree on the specific cards but if we're going to disagree -- it needs to be on the concept first.

Rich

Peter_Spaeth · #13 05-07-2018, 06:57 AM

That's the whole point Rich. We can judge these things for ourselves, we don't need a sticker.

bensie · #14 05-14-2018, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ruth_rookie

I was his first customer and got 2 for 2...

all kidding aside, there's no doubt that all 5's are not equal. Nor 6's. Nor 7's, etc. The question is "are people willing to pay for a third party to make that assessment?" we've already paid good money to have it graded, and now we pay again. not sure what the answer is. only time and the market will tell. can't blame someone for giving it a go, however. I wish you luck in your new endeavor. who knows, maybe it will pan out.

Well, the thing that really confuses me is if you have a '6' with a purple sticker, that implies that it's possibly undergraded, right? So maybe a '7', but not quite. Well, isn't that what the PSA half grades are for? So a '6' with a sticker means that the card is actually a '6.25'? Seems like a stupid idea, and I'd actually pay less for a purple sticker card since I'd have to spend effort removing that ugly purple piece of crap.

Marchillo · #15 05-14-2018, 05:49 AM

In theory I don�t think it�s a bad concept. Not every 5 is the same not every 6 is the same etc. I see people on eBay and on BST say their cards are undergraded. So if you don�t want to regrade here is the alternative. My question is how is the sticker determined. Does the company have flaw preferences? Does a card that is centered get a sticker despite having dinged corners and a small wrinkle versus an oc card that has nicer corners and no wrinkles?

The other thing I�ll say is I don�t think this works as a mail in service. I mail in 10 cards I feel are undergraded and get 3 stickers. So I pay $50 for these 3 stickers. Plus shipping etc. seems to me this would work better as an in person service. Charge $1 or $2 for rejects and $5 for the sticker. Not sure if that is profitable enough. Plus you might get a lot of pissed off people who disagree with the rejection of their undergraded cards.

I don�t think I�d personally use the service but based on some of the complaints I see for TPGs I understand the concept.

robkas68 · #16 05-14-2018, 06:20 AM

Could we have a yellow sticker for every overgraded card. Or perhaps multiple colors. If the card got a 7 but deserves a 6 it could be yellow. If it deserved a 5 it could be orange. If it should have been graded authentic altered it could be red with the letters WTF printed on the sticker. Now that would be a valuable service.

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