Today's Trivia Question

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Butch7999

Not saying it entirely explains or excuses it, but that (1937) was just the second year of voting,
so there were a trainload of worthy candidates.
Pete Alexander missed the cut that year with just 62% (he was elected the following year),
Keeler and Eddie Collins were named on just 57% of the ballots, Sisler 53% (all three were
elected in 1939).
Young actually got only 49% support in the first year of voting, finishing eighth behind
the Original Five enshrinees, Lajoie, and Speaker.
Shoot, Hornsby earned only 46% his first year eligible (1936), ninth among those candidates,
and wasn't ushered in until 1942.

Given the annual discussions in here on who's worthy / who isn't / Hall of Fame / Hall of Pretty Good,
it seems a little surprising no one's keen on assembling participants from this board and organizing a re-vote...

There were 2 ballots in 1936. One for 19th century players and one for 20th. Cy Young's career was split between the two centuries so there was confusion among the voters. Some voted for him on one ballot and others voted for him on the other resulting in Cy not being elected by either. I think that carried over to the 1937 with Cy receiving fewer votes than he should have.

[timn1]

Wow, that probably does explain it, at least somewhat-

Butch, I think a revote would be fun-

Originally Posted by rats60

There were 2 ballots in 1936. One for 19th century players and one for 20th. Cy Young's career was split between the two centuries so there was confusion among the voters. Some voted for him on one ballot and others voted for him on the other resulting in Cy not being elected by either. I think that carried over to the 1937 with Cy receiving fewer votes than he should have.

[SMPEP]

In a re-vote ... I'd vote against 97% of the Hall of Fame.

In my mind there are only 9 HOFers: Babe, Wajo, Ty Cobb, Cy Young, Ted Williams, Musial, Aaron, Mays, and Mantle.

The rest are merely members of the Hall of Really Good players.

[timn1]

Let’s forget the idea of re-voting, then. What would be the point with the attitude around?

Originally Posted by SMPEP

In a re-vote ... I'd vote against 97% of the Hall of Fame.

In my mind there are only 9 HOFers: Babe, Wajo, Ty Cobb, Cy Young, Ted Williams, Musial, Aaron, Mays, and Mantle.

The rest are merely members of the Hall of Really Good players.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

In a re-vote ... I'd vote against 97% of the Hall of Fame.

In my mind there are only 9 HOFers: Babe, Wajo, Ty Cobb, Cy Young, Ted Williams, Musial, Aaron, Mays, and Mantle.

The rest are merely members of the Hall of Really Good players.

Couldn't make it an even 10 for ol' Johannes?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Couldn't make it an even 10 for ol' Johannes?

I can think of at least 12 that were really great.

[sac_bunt]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

In a re-vote ... I'd vote against 97% of the Hall of Fame.

In my mind there are only 9 HOFers: Babe, Wajo, Ty Cobb, Cy Young, Ted Williams, Musial, Aaron, Mays, and Mantle.

The rest are merely members of the Hall of Really Good players.

Nobody that played after 1976 is worthy? 🤔
What would a millennial say to that? 😁

[Butch7999]

Originally Posted by rats60

There were 2 ballots in 1936. One for 19th century players and one for 20th. Cy Young's career was split between the two centuries so there was confusion among the voters. Some voted for him on one ballot and others voted for him on the other resulting in Cy not being elected by either. I think that carried over to the 1937 with Cy receiving fewer votes than he should have.

Excellent point, Rats. Thanks for the clarification.

Originally Posted by Butch7999

... Shoot, Hornsby earned only 46% his first year eligible (1936), ninth among those candidates, and wasn't ushered in until 1942.

We'll also note that Hornsby was still dabbling at the plate as a player/manager in '36 and '37.

Originally Posted by timn1

Butch, I think a revote would be fun-

Now we just need an even-tempered soul with a lot of time on his hands to moderate the discussions
and tabulate the votes.
And probably at least a couple of dozen board members to commit to taking on long-term roles as BBWAA voters.