FYI....RED CROSS (T215-1) checklist......UPDATED

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Can anyone confirm the existence of a T215-1 of WaJo (pitching pose)? I realize that this card has long been included in the T215-1 checklists, but I have collected WaJo cards for a long time, and I have never seen one. And, there are none listed in the PSA & SGC pop reports.

Hi Val...... Here is the confirmed 97-card list [includes Bobby Byrne (St. Louis variation)] from the PIRATE set find (circa 2007).

These cards were most likely printed in two 48-card series (1910 & 1912) using the regular T215-1 pre-printed (fronts) sheets.

Therefore, this tells us that Walter Johnson (pitching) must exist as a RED CROSS (T215-1) card.


T215-1 PIRATE set find......

Ames (hands above head)
Baker
Ball
Bender
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Byrne (St Louis)..................Byrne (Pittsburg)
Camnitz
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase
Collins (A's)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Crawford (bat)
Cree
Davis (A's)
Devore
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (fielding)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)

Larry Doyle (portrait)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Dubuc
Elberfeld (Wash.-fielding)
Evans
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Ford
Fromme
Griffith (bat)
Groom
Hartzel
Herzog...............................New York NL
Hoblitzell
Hofman
Howard
Huggins (portrait).................St Louis NL
Huggins (hands/mouth).........Cincinnati
Hummel
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)

Johnson (pitching)
Kelley
Konetchy (glove low)
Krause
Lajoie (bat)
Lake
Leifield (bat)
Lord
Magee (bat)
Marquard (portrait)
Marquard (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McGinnity
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove)
Harry McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago Nat'l)
Matty McIntyre (Detroit)
Matty McIntyre....................Chicago AL
McLean
Merkle (throwing)

Meyers
Miller
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mowery
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Murray
Oakes................................St Louis, Nat'l
Oldring (bat)
O'Leary (hands/knees)
Paskert
Pelty (vertical)
Purtell
Quinn
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (bat)
Schaefer
Schulte (back view)
Sheckard (glove)
Frank Smith........................Cincinnati


Speaker
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)(Chicago NL)
Street
Summers
Sweeney (New York)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Thomas
Tinker (bat)
Wagner (bat on right)
Warhop
Wheat
Willetts
Wilson
Wiltse (portrait)
Wiltse (throwing)

TRADES....circa 1909 - Spring 1912

Bobby Byrne.................from St Louis NL to Pittsburg on Aug 19, 1909
Clark Griffith.................signed a contract in Oct 1911 to manage Washington
Buck Herzog.................from Boston NL to New York NL on July 22, 1911
Miller Huggins (port).......from Cinci to St Louis on Feb 3, 1910
Harry Lord.....................from Boston AL to Chicago AL on Aug 11, 1910
Harry McIntyre..............from Brooklyn to Chicago NL on April 13, 1910
Matty McIntyre.............from Detroit to Chicago AL on Jan 12, 1911
Rebel Oakes..................from Cinci to St Louis on Feb 3, 1910
Frank Smith..................from Boston AL to Cinci on May 11, 1911
Harry Steinfeldt............1912 Spring training tryout with St Louis NL


Check-out this 2010 thread for more info on this subject...... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...215+Pirate+set







TED Z
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[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Val...... Here is the confirmed 97-card list [includes Bobby Byrne (St. Louis variation)] from the PIRATE set find (circa 2007).

These cards were most likely printed in two 48-card series (1910 & 1912) using the regular T215-1 pre-printed (fronts) sheets.

Therefore, this tells us that Walter Johnson (pitching) must exist as a RED CROSS (T215-1) card.

Ted, thanks for trying to enlighten me with your T215-1 theory, which, in fact, I grasped the first time you presented it. You theory really means the the WaJo (pitching) card MUST HAVE BEEN PRINTED 100+ years ago, as opposed to meaning that this card MUST EXIST today, which is what I am trying to ascertain. As we both know, it is generally believed that there are many cards that were printed back in the day for which no examples any longer exist. Knowing that you have been involved with pre-War cards much longer than I have, have you ever seen a T215-1 WaJo or know of anyone who has one?
Val

[ValKehl]

Thanks to another Net54 member, I have now seen confirmation that a T215-1 card of WaJo does currently exist.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Thanks to another Net54 member, I have now seen confirmation that a T215-1 card of WaJo does currently exist.

Hi Val

I had no doubts that you would find that a T215-1 Walter Johnson still exists 107 years after it was printed.

Wishing you Good Luck in finding this card for your collection.

If you're going to be at the Philly Show this forthcoming weekend, stop by at booth #412, and we can be "Talkin' BB cards".


TED Z
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