My pet peeve

[bnorth]

This is what I do because I hate negotiating and completely ignore those that like to do it. If someone has an item I want and it is more than I will pay I will make my absolute best offer. If the seller does not accept it I move on and feel no need to communicate anymore.

As far as quoting recent sales it is the best way to get me to ignore that person no matter if I am the seller or buyer. We all do stuff different and I am not saying my way is perfect, it is just how I do it.

[frankbmd]

Avoid my wife, if you don't want to haggle.

She haggled for two hours on our last car purchase, had both the salesman and the owner of the dealership in a cold sweat and saved us $7000 off their first offer. Finally they accepted our offer when I tossed in $100 at the end, because she refused to budge, when we were $200 apart.

And guess what...........she was mad at me for doing so.

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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Avoid my wife, if you don't want to haggle.

She haggled for two hours on our last car purchase, had both the salesman and the owner of the dealership in a cold sweat and saved us $7000 off their first offer. Finally they accepted our offer when I tossed in $100 at the end, because she refused to budge, when we were $200 apart.

And guess what...........she was mad at me for doing so.

(Fact checker confirms this is a true story)

Frank my wife is the same way. We are still on the new customer special with our internet provider and have had the same one for over 10 years. When she bought the Jeep she is driving now I had to go walk around the lot because I couldn't take her haggling anymore. I will say she paid exactly what she wanted to though.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by bnorth

We are still on the new customer special with our internet provider and have had the same one for over 10 years.

How do you do this? I have FIOS and everytime I call they basically shut me down and say sorry, these offers don't apply to existing customers. I have even threatened to switch to xfinity to no avail.

[vintagerookies51]

I usually try to decline, but sometimes I'll get the notification of the counteroffer and it's just not in the same ballpark as I'm willing to pay, so I forget to go into the app to decline it

[sycks22]

I also love when you make an offer and the seller counters with $1 less than their buy it now price. I usually respond with $1, they don't like it. Why have a best offer option if you're only willing to take 99% of your price?

[Piratedogcardshows]

Originally Posted by sycks22

I also love when you make an offer and the seller counters with $1 less than their buy it now price. I usually respond with $1, they don't like it. Why have a best offer option if you're only willing to take 99% of your price?

I had this exact thing happen to me for the first time the other day. Seller didnt discount much more on the next counteroffer. Had to have it though

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by sycks22

I also love when you make an offer and the seller counters with $1 less than their buy it now price. I usually respond with $1, they don't like it. Why have a best offer option if you're only willing to take 99% of your price?

I am guilty of this; but usually after I have reduced my price several times and I am at my low point. Unfortunately, ebay doesn't provide a price history {good idea here} so a potential buyer would never know that.

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Frank my wife is the same way. We are still on the new customer special with our internet provider and have had the same one for over 10 years. When she bought the Jeep she is driving now I had to go walk around the lot because I couldn't take her haggling anymore. I will say she paid exactly what she wanted to though.

I also let my wife negotiate for cars. She is better at it than me.

[Exhibitman]

I sent a seller an offer the other day and stated in the offer that it is the only offer I am going to make. it was above market but I was willing to pay a bit more to check the card off my list. he responded with a counter halfway between my offer and his ask. I let it expire. People need to believe what you say.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by bnorth

This is what I do because I hate negotiating and completely ignore those that like to do it. If someone has an item I want and it is more than I will pay I will make my absolute best offer. If the seller does not accept it I move on and feel no need to communicate anymore.

I can understand this; but why not just decline the counter and than move on.

Maybe it's just me; I frequently adjust my pricing to try and find a buyer and if I have offers outstanding I don't want to drop the price on that particular item because I don't want to offend the potential buyer. It seems that card prices can change daily based on the previous sales method. Sometimes higher, Sometimes lower. I personally would rather negotiate than just wait for a buyer at my fixed price, I guess that's why I list everything at best offer.

[Luke]

I do this sometimes, but it's not on purpose. Sometimes I'll be out running errands and get the email that my offer was countered. If it's not close to a price I would pay, I might completely forget about it, even though I always intend to click decline later when I'm not busy.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

I can understand this; but why not just decline the counter and than move on.

Maybe it's just me; I frequently adjust my pricing to try and find a buyer and if I have offers outstanding I don't want to drop the price on that particular item because I don't want to offend the potential buyer. It seems that card prices can change daily based on the previous sales method. Sometimes higher, Sometimes lower. I personally would rather negotiate than just wait for a buyer at my fixed price, I guess that's why I list everything at best offer.

Because for me the the entire deal is over when the seller rejects my offer. I do my absolute best to make transactions smooth and easy. Haggling is not smooth or easy and I consider it a complete waste of time. To me it is simply take my money or not, if the seller wants to try to add to that it is their problem.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Because for me the the entire deal is over when the seller rejects my offer. I do my absolute best to make transactions smooth and easy. Haggling is not smooth or easy and I consider it a complete waste of time. To me it is simply take my money or not, if the seller wants to try to add to that it is their problem.

That seems reasonable. I was not trying to offend you; I wish more people were like that.

[frankbmd]

As a seller I might add a bit of wiggle room in my pricing.

As a buyer my first offer is not necessarily (and rarely is) my max, call it negative wiggle room if you will.

Sellers should be motivated to make a sale and unless the price is listed as "firm", I would assume that their asking price probably is not so firm.

I would maintain that the assumption that the buyer's first offer represents the max he is willing to pay is fallacious much of the time. A non-negotiable buy-it-now coupled with a non-negotiable sell-it-now with two different numbers is a waste of time, like looking at all those outrageous BINs on eBay.

To walk away from a deal at this point without counters virtually eliminates a deal that both parties would gladly accept. If that happy medium is not reached, either party may walk away at any time, but that party should notify the other that that is their intent.

Haggling is not a disease or a waste of time, but a tool of free market economics.

That said I realize there are many who prefer to eschew negotiation, which is their right, but unfortunate in my opinion, unless of course as a buyer they simply say "I'll take it".

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

As a seller I might add a bit of wiggle room in my pricing.

As a buyer my first offer is not necessarily (and rarely is) my max, call it negative wiggle room if you will.

Sellers should be motivated to make a sale and unless the price is listed as "firm", I would assume that their asking price probably is not so firm.

I would maintain that the assumption that the buyer's first offer represents the max he is willing to pay is fallacious much of the time. A non-negotiable buy-it-now coupled with a non-negotiable sell-it-now with two different numbers is a waste of time, like looking at all those outrageous BINs on eBay.

To walk away from a deal at this point without counters virtually eliminates a deal that both parties would gladly accept. If that happy medium is not reached, either party may walk away at any time, but that party should notify the other that that is their intent.

Haggling is not a disease or a waste of time, but a tool of free market economics.

That said I realize there are many who prefer to eschew negotiation, which is their right, but unfortunate in my opinion, unless of course as a buyer they simply say "I'll take it".

Frank the next time you are selling a card I want you will receive a email(more like many) from my wife.

[cardsnstuff]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

As a seller I might add a bit of wiggle room in my pricing.

As a buyer my first offer is not necessarily (and rarely is) my max, call it negative wiggle room if you will.

Sellers should be motivated to make a sale and unless the price is listed as "firm", I would assume that their asking price probably is not so firm.

I would maintain that the assumption that the buyer's first offer represents the max he is willing to pay is fallacious much of the time. A non-negotiable buy-it-now coupled with a non-negotiable sell-it-now with two different numbers is a waste of time, like looking at all those outrageous BINs on eBay.

To walk away from a deal at this point without counters virtually eliminates a deal that both parties would gladly accept. If that happy medium is not reached, either party may walk away at any time, but that party should notify the other that that is their intent.

Haggling is not a disease or a waste of time, but a tool of free market economics.

That said I realize there are many who prefer to eschew negotiation, which is their right, but unfortunate in my opinion, unless of course as a buyer they simply say "I'll take it".

I agree, this is kinda my thinking too; I do understand how some people don't like haggling, but in today's world it's a necessary evil. It's done in everything from cell phones to groceries. {price shopping is a form of haggling, isn't it?} As Ben stated earlier, his wife negotiates with their cable company; Maybe not actually but "per se"

It's like going to a show and making an offer on a card; than the dealer says X; and you just walk away, without uttering a word. I think most people would just say no thanks and than walk away.

As a seller and buyer I accept it and sometimes the answer is no; goes both ways, sometimes they say no to me too. I was really curious as to why the negotiations end there. I think there has been a lot of great answers.

I can't speak for others; I know sometimes myself I put a high {aka crazy #} on {mostly low # modern stuff, and high grade stuff to - occasionally} because there is really no true comparison as prices fluctuate daily and honestly I have no idea what it's worth; so I'm really just testing the marketplace so to speak.

Look at some of the recent prices for 1972 PSA 9 commons for example.

[buymycards]

In all of my years selling on eBay, I have NEVER had a buyer respond with another offer after I have countered their original offer. I always try to build a little wiggle room into my pricing, and I normally accept offers that are 20-30% off of my original price. When I receive an offer from someone who makes an offer that is 40-50% of my asking price, I send a counter offer that is 20-30% of my asking price, but no one ever responds. It is usually someone who is looking to buy something to flip, or someone new to eBay who thinks the sellers get their cards for free and everything is profit.

[hangman62]

doesn't bother me either way

whats the rush ? ..low ball high ball, offer expire, quick response. I don't see an issue..its just baseball card bartering/bargaining/ negotiating

[GoCubsGo32]

eBay - When the seller runs an auction. Bids are placed. Someone contacts the seller to buy the item off eBay/on the side. The auction then is suddenly ended...while numerous bids were placed.Item is then sold to whoever contacted the seller.

In life -- People pulling an item out of the microwave with less than 3 secs on the timer...then they don't clear it.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by GoCubsGo32

eBay - When the seller runs an auction. Bids are placed. Someone contacts the seller to buy the item off eBay/on the side. The auction then is suddenly ended...while numerous bids were placed.Item is then sold to whoever contacted the seller.

I hate this too. We have a seller on this forum that has done this to me.