PWCC I want to bid but.... I just can't!

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

whatever helps you sleep ...

What helps me to sleep is a PWCC thread. Bores my right to sleep. Good night! Zzzzzz!

[slipk1068]

People who consign with them are the problem.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

People who consign with them are the problem.

They are only part of the problem.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by bnorth

They are only part of the problem.

Who is john Galt?

Who is Ben North?

We are.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I always thought the problems were pretty simple. People who pervert the process, whether through actively abusing the system or allowing the abuse to occur.

I have consigned stuff to them and I didn't shill my items, they sold for reasonable prices, very low by PWCC standards. That was the eye-opener for me that there must be SOME reason the identical cards go for more for other consignors.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I always thought the problems were pretty simple. People who pervert the process, whether through actively abusing the system or allowing the abuse to occur.

I have consigned stuff to them and I didn't shill my items, they sold for reasonable prices, very low by PWCC standards. That was the eye-opener for me that there must be SOME reason the identical cards go for more for other consignors.

Well you are likely the exception. I think many of their consignors and defenders shill their auctions. It is an illusion that they get higher prices for honest consignors.

[slipk1068]

I shouldn't read about problems in the hobby. I get too emotional. I just wish those who claim to want to help fix problems in the hobby, actually mean what they say.

[Touch'EmAll]

See a card you are interested in. Figure out how much you are willing to bid. Put in a bid. If you get it great. If you don't, you don't .

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

I shouldn't read about problems in the hobby. I get too emotional. I just wish those who claim to want to help fix problems in the hobby, actually mean what they say.

I'm with you, and I fight to keep my little corner clean.

[topcat61]

I think we all share some type of responsibility in fighting fraud in the hobby. What did Frank Nagy say -The Hobby tomorrow is only as good as we make it today?

[insidethewrapper]

If the sites would block anyone with more than 2 retractions that would help. If they get a new user id again only 2 retractions blocked again. Then it's up to ebay to stop additional usernames from the same address or computer address. Maybe on ebay a seller could block anyone with several changes in userid within a year. I'm not a computer guy so I don't know what else can be done. Any ideas from the computer software field ?

[edjs]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Then it's up to ebay to stop additional usernames from the same address or computer address.

The thing I see about this is where multiple adults live in the same place, but each has there own account. My sister has five adults live at her house, share a computer, but each have their own account. Same shipping address, same IP address, but legitimate different accounts.

[mark evans]

I am following a PWCC eBay auction in which a bidder with 80% of his bids with PWCC has made minimum incremental bids to reach and surpass existing high bid. What is the likelihood he is a shill bidder? Should I bring this to PWCC's attention?

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

If the sites would block anyone with more than 2 retractions that would help. If they get a new user id again only 2 retractions blocked again. Then it's up to ebay to stop additional usernames from the same address or computer address. Maybe on ebay a seller could block anyone with several changes in userid within a year. I'm not a computer guy so I don't know what else can be done. Any ideas from the computer software field ?

All of what you are suggesting can easily be done, with a few simple designed queries.

[mark evans]

I decided to take advantage of the invitation on PWCC's website to notify the company of suspicious circumstances that might indicate shill bidding. The website advises that PWCC will follow up and respond to such inquiries.

Inasmuch as I have not heard back on an auction that is soon to close, I must join those members who have opted to stay away from PWCC's auctions.