Issue with lot a lot description - What is a "loose" spine?

[drcy]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

No doubt you're right but when someone cites, "has condition issues", my expectations would be low. If I hadn't paid too much I'd just let it go.

Agreed. More specifically, it says "has condition issues, including .... "

However, I agree that loose pages is more than a loose spine.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

A loose spine, in book collecting, has a very specific meaning, a bunch of unattached pages ain't it.

[Bugsy]

Here is the auction photo.

[Bugsy]

And the interior.

You can see the staples from the spine in this photo, so I assumed the cover was loose. I would not have even minded if it had just been the cover that had been split or that the pages were detached from the staples, but every single page with the exception of the center page is split.

[JollyElm]

Pure deception. That photo appears to be a used, but perfectly intact, item. You should be pissed.

[Jobu]

+1

That is most definitely NOT a loose spine. A loose spine is a bound item that has a little play along the binding. This is no longer a bound item.

Unlike my women, I do not like my book spines to be loose.

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Pure deception. That photo appears to be a used, but perfectly intact, item. You should be pissed.

[D. Bergin]

Fragile year for paper items. The tail end of the paper drive era after WWII had ended and lower quality high acid content paper was still in widespread use.

Is it possible the pages became separated in shipping?

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Fragile year for paper items. The tail end of the paper drive era after WWII had ended and lower quality high acid content paper was still in widespread use.

Is it possible the pages became separated in shipping?

That is a good point and I honestly don't know. It was in a rigid toploader, with cardboard on either side, and shipped in a bubble mailer. The package itself looked completely fine...which makes me wonder if the shipping company (can't remember if it was UPS or USPS) would consider the shipment damaged. Would they reject the claim that it was damaged in transit?

[DaveW]

I would say that both the book and the seller were spineless

[Jason19th]

I think the use of the word spine is problematic. I don't think that a program would really have a spine. A spine is the covering of a books binding and the binding is made up of signatures or gathering of folded paper which are then
Sewn into the binding
It would have been better to simple say all pages loose and separated at fold

[doug.goodman]

I won most of the other lots in that auction, with no similar issues when they all showed up. Like Dave, my initial thought is that it was damaged in shipping, but all of the programs I won that were individually packaged were packed in a comic bag / with a board, with the flap taped, and then placed in a top loader, and then wrapped in bubblewrap, and then placed in a small box, and then placed in a larger box with packing peanuts. Very, very secure packing.

Sorry this happened to your item.

Doug


PS - I am a fan of the word "spine" when referencing the condition of my programs, which have sometimes been folded (not at the "spine") and put in a pocket at some point in their lifetime.

PPS - If I didn't already have a program from that game, there is a chance that I would have outbid you and won that auction, and if I had, I would be contacting the auction house about a refund.

[Shoeless Moe]

Was there some significance to the game its from? Not that that has anything to do with the price of tea in China, but is it really historic as you described in your initial post or just a regular season game?

[khkco4bls]

That's bs.....