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Not as neat of a discovery, X2. (post cards)
To further add to my latest Mantle pic post, I also came across these which I forgot I had.
Like I mentioned last year, I was out of the hobby for 30+ years so like a lot things over that time frame, these were also forgotten about. I know very little about them, or if any have any value, etc, but I think they are pretty cool to have as these were likely cut out and saved by my Father.
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Most of them would only grade Authentic so you're going to lose some interested buyers. Check them to see if they're plentiful for sale or short printed.
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Looking at this link, I found out they are 1962's and also found out some have some pretty good value if this list is accurate? https://www.psacard.com/smrpriceguid...st-cereal/1185 These are some of what I have and their MT-9 values. I am not sure how these are graded but I would say most of mine are EX+ with some higher and some lower? Gordie Coleman #116 $450 MT-9 Norm Siebern #92 $350 MT-9 (I have 2 copies) Early Wynn #55 $300 MT-9 Pete Runnels #57 $150 MT-9 Frank Robinson #122 $250 MT-9 Norm Larker #113 $300 MT-9 Joey Jay #124 (Blue lines around stats) $600 MT-9 Don Drysdale #110 $150 MT-9 (mine's like a 2-4?) Carlton Willey #155 $150 MT-9
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Ah, if those are all the perforated versions, then they would grade higher than authentic. However, the cards that were hand-cut should have the full black border around them. And of course, since they're the Canadian versions, they're more rare than the US cards.
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1962 Post Cereal Candian
They are 1962 Post Cereal Canadian. Unlike the US version they would have blue borders instead of black ones. The borders are thicker than the US version. The perforated ones do not have blue borders. They were inserted INSIDE Sugar Crisp boxes. They were wrapped in plastic. The buyer did not have the luxury of looking at the back of the box to see which cards were there. The perforated cards are akin to the company sheets offered as a mail-in in 1961. The 61 company sheets were perforated with no borders.
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And there are quite a few that would only get authentic, like the Kluzeswki, O'Toole, Pascual, Willie Davis, etc. Those cards are trimmed through the dashed borders and would not get number grades.
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62 Post Canadian
Yes, while I said no borders on the perforated cards, they did have a thin blue dotted line in which to cut where there was no perforation. I have a full sheet. If there is any interest I can scan and post.
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Irv if I had one of my Dad's sets I would finish it leave them in pages and enjoy it until you passed it your children! Just my thought.
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In the link I posted, it mentioned "Blue lines around stats" on the Joey Jay card. Am I thinking correctly that that is the area on the bottom that is obviously around the stats or are they referring to the blue borders? That would be great if you could post up a scan, Micheal. I would like to see that! Quote:
In my FlickR link below, among all the other 52 Topps cards, are 148 my Father gave me many years ago. I have been trying, (although it's highly unlikely I'll ever finish it), to add to it as much as possible in hopes to show him someday what a completed, or almost completed set looks like. That is my main focus and where 99% of my play money currently goes so completing this Post set, at this time, is out of the question. If and when I ever get close to completing this 52 Topps set, and like my Father did for me, and if things don't change, I will hopefully be passing these cards onto my son.
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More 62 Canadian
Irv,
Attached is a Sugar Crisp sheet. You will note the Joey Jay card. Jay was also on the back of the Bran Flakes cereal. That card would have blue borders. I have also scanned an Eddie Yost card. That card has blue borders. |
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Is that Joey Jay card really worth that much money, or am I missing something? Joey Jay #124 (Blue lines around stats) $600 MT-9
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Irv,
The prices that were quoted to you were for the 62 US cards. The Jay card in the US set is framed in red. However there are blue lines in the stat box. Card is rare and there is a Koufax and a Clemente with the same anomaly. I can post pictures as I have all three. The Jay in the Canadian set is worth 8-10 dollars depending on condition. The Sugar Crisp card is usually in better shape than the Bran Flakes card. Mike |
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Would love to see those pics if it's not too much trouble?
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62 Blue Lines in Stats
Irv,
Here are the three from the 62 US set. Mike |
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Thanks, Michael.
Those are some great looking cards!
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irv, I would caution you against using PSA 9 prices for cards that are cut from boxes. Many have spider wrinkles from the scissors used to cut them, which would put them at a 3-4 range if they even deserve a number grade at all. The three just shown with red borders would all likely get PSA AUTH, not number grades.
PSA 9s of cereal box cards from the 60s are super rare examples and are priced accordingly by the registry set collectors. Many were probably cut in the past 10 years, not 50 years ago by the kids that originally collected them. Many also have glue stains on the back because of the box construction. For the American Post cereal cards from 1963, it looks like PSA considers the commons in PSA 5 to be worth $3 and in PSA 9 of $60. That's a 20:1 ratio of a 9 to an Excellent card.
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I know now from the info I have received, that these cards are nothing like I had originally thought. Lots have those glue stains, among other issues, so no thoughts now about sending them in. I appreciate the info.
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Irv,
The glue stains are normal on some of the Post Cereal cards. They come from the plastic bag that holds the cereal and was in some cases glued to the inside of the box. PSA has very little knowledge of the Post Cereal cards and in MY opinion doesn't take many of the nuances of the set into consideration. There are some cards that will not have black or blue borders due to the box that they were on. There were no gaps between the cards as there were on the other boxes that would allow the cards to be cut "outside" the borders. Since the cards were blank backed I find it silly that a card with glue stains and all borders would be graded less. It's silly. The glue stains are part of the product and don't damage the front of the card. Their logic in my opinion is baffling. |
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This! If you are going to grade any hand-cut card, as long as there is part of the complete dotted line showing on all sides, this should qualify as properly cut. Obviously, my opinion.
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Thanks again for the info!
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