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Old 04-28-2017, 06:23 AM
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I do agree it's the registry 100%
But outside registry, when the actual grading is concerned, why not just buy SGC cards and just have them crossed to make an easy 30%?

The cards just dont cross over that easily plus grading fees. If I buy a SGC 7 card, i want to pay a PSA 6- 6.5 price so i am prepared to get a PSA 6 if i cross it over but that doesnt save me 30% when i go a resell that PSA 6 card that once was a SGC7. Yes you never know what the grade will be on the crossover but its a gamble that would eat up that 30% in the long run if you are just worried about making an easy 30%

With that being said, i do think that more people prefer and pay more for SGC card ratio wise in the net54 community than the general population ratio on ebay...

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Old 04-28-2017, 09:28 AM
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One common thought I hear from people who flip cards from SGC to PSA is to break it out ahead of time. If PSA knows they are regrading an SGC card it gets hammered about 95 percent of the time.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:51 AM
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People who are buying PSA cards are either set builders or are just flat out sheep who don't realize their overpaying for lesser standards of grading.

The reason they draw a premium is for several reasons, none of which matter to me as long as the grade is accurate, standards are high, and consistency is there:

1. Publicly traded company on NASDAQ so more transparency in what the companies operations are. (Beckett and SGC are not)

2. American owned. (Beckett is not. SGC is as far as I know).

3. Coin Grading. (Shouldn't have anything to do with cards and their values, but apparently to some people it does.)

4. Set Registry. (Again, shouldn't matter unless you're a baseball card nerd, but apparently it does.)
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Old 04-28-2017, 04:03 PM
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2. American owned. (Beckett is not. SGC is as far as I know).
http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...sa-slab-5.html
Post #118 says that BGS is owned by an American citizen who lives in North Carolina. I know you read that thread because you got banned because of it. Why continue to spread rumors on a different message board?
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http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...sa-slab-5.html
Post #118 says that BGS is owned by an American citizen who lives in North Carolina. I know you read that thread because you got banned because of it. Why continue to spread rumors on a different message board?
This guy is making the calls as CEO and he's not in America:

https://in.linkedin.com/in/sandeepdua

He's part of Eli Global which owns Beckett Media. While the owner of Eli Global may own a residence in North Carolina and it may be based there to a degree, that doesn't make it an American company to the people voting with their dollars. Right or wrong, that guy being the CEO, running it the way they have, and it being private are big problems for people trust-wise.

He's also put their customer service 1/2 way across the world and has really tied the hands of those who work there. You cannot directly call someone at Beckett HQ and check on your order unless you know someone there and have their work extension, cell-phone #, or internal E-Mail address. You've got to speak to some jack-wagon over in India or the Philippines who you can't even understand or even really truly knows what's going on. That is also a HUGE problem for people, especially given the recent issues they've had. People are already super-pissed and don't want to have to run through those hoops.

Beckett Media is just a pawn for Eli Global to fund other businesses they have in their portfolio so they honestly don't really care about the hobby as a whole and that's the sad part. They could really turn things around with a few changes and better customer service.

In regards to Blowout, you can read the thread yourself and see what happened. You've got a mob-mentality there that's not interested in the truth. I saw a ton of people on there pissed about their orders and tried to help them get some answers directly instead of speaking to some guy named "Gupta" in India or wherever the hell else they may be. Not sweating it because it's obvious what kind of people are on there and how they handle facts vs. lies.
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