PWCC Bid History

[Leon]

I have a feeling more and more are playing some pseudo-games with PWCC and Probstein auctions hoping to scare others away. If I wanted something I would just bid what I want, as a snipe, and not think about it. Alas, no great looking T205 Cobby so I am safe....

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Now that the bidding is over, I will admit to being the person who put in all those bids on the Siegle. I was not the consigner of this card, but wanted if for my personal collection. I have also never retracted a bid. For those that do not know me, I'm a bit obsessed with the e92 set (5 red crofts, 40 different nadja, a few blues, 2 menageries, a prizefighter, a blank back, etc). So figured this card would fit nicely into my collection. As for the other cards I was bidding on, the e93 Cobb is the last card I need for my set. The 3rd card ends tonight so I don't want to divulge it until after it ends, but would be happy to do so at that point.

So why did I bid like this? Quite frankly, to make people hesitant to bid given PWCC reputation for shill bidding. Had this been any other seller, I likely would have just put in a snipe and waited for the outcome. Does bidding like this work? Hard to say for sure, as it only takes one other person putting in a snipe to be outbid. I had a price in mind that I was willing to pay up to and set my final snipe to that amount. In this case, whoever won the card obviously still wanted it just a little more than me. However, as a few people such as Dan have mentioned, it put them off from the auction, so it did have at least some influence on some potential bidders.

DJ

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have a feeling more and more are playing some pseudo-games with PWCC and Probstein auctions hoping to scare others away. If I wanted something I would just bid what I want, as a snipe, and not think about it. Alas, no great looking T205 Cobby so I am safe....

+1 The aggravated buyers on this forum could learn a lot from this. Find a value that you think is fair, set a snipe, then walk away.

Like others have said, assume you will be shilled on any platform, more so if you can't see the bidders and snipping is not allowed.

[Timbegs]

There are also people like me who bid differently every time motivated solely by my desire to land the card. Depending on the card, I DO like to find out where the topside is and then double it for my last second bid. So I'll one click up until I find the original bidders top. I'll click it up and then if I think the guys initial top bid is too high for me, I'll give up having only cost that guy more money especially if I was the only other serious bidder. In the end, that guy may pay much closer to his top side bid because of me.

Warm glass of milk and I still sleep fine. I also have never retracted a bid. Ever. I pay literally instantly and have been actually scolded for paying before invoice.

Now, I'll ask since I never really considered it - am I a jerk ebay bidder?

I really don't mean to be. I don't work for the auction house and am small time, nickel and dime.

[nolemmings]

I often will make a placeholder bid, usually well into the auction (sometimes the final day). This is for far less than what I would be willing to pay but enough to win at the time, so that in the unlikely event my snipe does not fire off, I still have a shot--I actually have failed to do this and watched an item or two go for less than what I would have initially bid. Two bids. Max. I also watch those items so that I receive outbid and "about to close" e-mails, just for reminder purposes.

[danmckee]

Just clicked on over a dozen PWCC auctions bid history ending tonight....

84%, 90% a few 100%

Sorry.... I ain't buying it!!!!

Just complete BULLSHIT to me!

I won't bid on any with stats like that, I guarantee there is shilling involved.

Painthistorian runs tons of auctions of coll stuff and doesn't have those numbers.

I just ain't buying it!!!!

[Rhotchkiss]

How can one tell on eBay how many bids a bidder has retracted (in general and in a specific auction) and how many times a bidder has bid? When I hit bid history, all I see is a string of single bids with f**s (1896) etc. Thanks!

[swarmee]

Click on the hyperlink for each of those bidder IDs.

[Leon]

Hey Dan
Tell us how ya really feel?

LL

Originally Posted by danmckee

Just clicked on over a dozen PWCC auctions bid history ending tonight....

84%, 90% a few 100%

Sorry.... I ain't buying it!!!!

Just complete BULLSHIT to me!

I won't bid on any with stats like that, I guarantee there is shilling involved.

Painthistorian runs tons of auctions of coll stuff and doesn't have those numbers.

I just ain't buying it!!!!

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Just clicked on over a dozen PWCC auctions bid history ending tonight....

84%, 90% a few 100%

Sorry.... I ain't buying it!!!!

Just complete BULLSHIT to me!

I won't bid on any with stats like that, I guarantee there is shilling involved.

Painthistorian runs tons of auctions of coll stuff and doesn't have those numbers.

I just ain't buying it!!!!

Possibly the most egregious shameless plug I've ever seen on net54.

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Possibly the most egregious shameless plug I've ever seen on net54.

you must not read the board much