PWCC Bid History

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

.. or all those 2's and 3 MK's that magically reappear as PHENOMINAL!, BREATH-TAKING! and STUPENDOUS! photoshopped raw cards on Battlefield0516's auctions

Or even more devious. Those SGC "A" cards that appear near mint!! That is like hitting the jackpot for battlefield!!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Or even more devious. Those SGC "A" cards that appear near mint!! That is like hitting the jackpot for battlefield!!

She just sold that trimmed Cobb Green for $4,000.

She only got $3,000 for it back in January. The market for trimmed Cobb greens is exploding.

[BeanTown]

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[T206Collector]

Here's a few rules I live by happily in my collecting life. To each their own:

SNIPING. If you are buying on ebay without using sniping software you are only helping the seller make more money. Raising the bids before the end only drives interest in the auction and causes eventual snipers to place higher snipes. If sniping was making ebay money they would offer the service.


SHILLING. If you are bidding in a blind auction (like ebay) you should assume you are always being "shilled." And real "shillers" in ebay don't bid things up in increments. They place "shill" snipes. Why would you shill in increments when you will be noticed by potential buyers (and potentially outed on Net54)?

Before you bid you should determine how much you want to pay for the item and then "set it and forget it." Shilling is an occupational hobby hazard. If you want to play in the auction house setting you'll be much happier paying what you want for an item without worrying that you could've had it cheaper but for some phantom shiller.

Just my 2 cents...

[x2drich2000]

Now that the bidding is over, I will admit to being the person who put in all those bids on the Siegle. I was not the consigner of this card, but wanted if for my personal collection. I have also never retracted a bid. For those that do not know me, I'm a bit obsessed with the e92 set (5 red crofts, 40 different nadja, a few blues, 2 menageries, a prizefighter, a blank back, etc). So figured this card would fit nicely into my collection. As for the other cards I was bidding on, the e93 Cobb is the last card I need for my set. The 3rd card ends tonight so I don't want to divulge it until after it ends, but would be happy to do so at that point.

So why did I bid like this? Quite frankly, to make people hesitant to bid given PWCC reputation for shill bidding. Had this been any other seller, I likely would have just put in a snipe and waited for the outcome. Does bidding like this work? Hard to say for sure, as it only takes one other person putting in a snipe to be outbid. I had a price in mind that I was willing to pay up to and set my final snipe to that amount. In this case, whoever won the card obviously still wanted it just a little more than me. However, as a few people such as Dan have mentioned, it put them off from the auction, so it did have at least some influence on some potential bidders.

DJ

[Leon]

I have a feeling more and more are playing some pseudo-games with PWCC and Probstein auctions hoping to scare others away. If I wanted something I would just bid what I want, as a snipe, and not think about it. Alas, no great looking T205 Cobby so I am safe....

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Now that the bidding is over, I will admit to being the person who put in all those bids on the Siegle. I was not the consigner of this card, but wanted if for my personal collection. I have also never retracted a bid. For those that do not know me, I'm a bit obsessed with the e92 set (5 red crofts, 40 different nadja, a few blues, 2 menageries, a prizefighter, a blank back, etc). So figured this card would fit nicely into my collection. As for the other cards I was bidding on, the e93 Cobb is the last card I need for my set. The 3rd card ends tonight so I don't want to divulge it until after it ends, but would be happy to do so at that point.

So why did I bid like this? Quite frankly, to make people hesitant to bid given PWCC reputation for shill bidding. Had this been any other seller, I likely would have just put in a snipe and waited for the outcome. Does bidding like this work? Hard to say for sure, as it only takes one other person putting in a snipe to be outbid. I had a price in mind that I was willing to pay up to and set my final snipe to that amount. In this case, whoever won the card obviously still wanted it just a little more than me. However, as a few people such as Dan have mentioned, it put them off from the auction, so it did have at least some influence on some potential bidders.

DJ

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have a feeling more and more are playing some pseudo-games with PWCC and Probstein auctions hoping to scare others away. If I wanted something I would just bid what I want, as a snipe, and not think about it. Alas, no great looking T205 Cobby so I am safe....

+1 The aggravated buyers on this forum could learn a lot from this. Find a value that you think is fair, set a snipe, then walk away.

Like others have said, assume you will be shilled on any platform, more so if you can't see the bidders and snipping is not allowed.

[sushihotwings]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Now that the bidding is over, I will admit to being the person who put in all those bids on the Siegle. I was not the consigner of this card, but wanted if for my personal collection. I have also never retracted a bid. For those that do not know me, I'm a bit obsessed with the e92 set (5 red crofts, 40 different nadja, a few blues, 2 menageries, a prizefighter, a blank back, etc). So figured this card would fit nicely into my collection. As for the other cards I was bidding on, the e93 Cobb is the last card I need for my set. The 3rd card ends tonight so I don't want to divulge it until after it ends, but would be happy to do so at that point.

So why did I bid like this? Quite frankly, to make people hesitant to bid given PWCC reputation for shill bidding. Had this been any other seller, I likely would have just put in a snipe and waited for the outcome. Does bidding like this work? Hard to say for sure, as it only takes one other person putting in a snipe to be outbid. I had a price in mind that I was willing to pay up to and set my final snipe to that amount. In this case, whoever won the card obviously still wanted it just a little more than me. However, as a few people such as Dan have mentioned, it put them off from the auction, so it did have at least some influence on some potential bidders.

DJ

"Mic drop"

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Now that the bidding is over, I will admit to being the person who put in all those bids on the Siegle. I was not the consigner of this card, but wanted if for my personal collection. I have also never retracted a bid. For those that do not know me, I'm a bit obsessed with the e92 set (5 red crofts, 40 different nadja, a few blues, 2 menageries, a prizefighter, a blank back, etc). So figured this card would fit nicely into my collection.

DJ

It looks like the seigle might have been to the right of Crawford.
Crofts Cocoa Crawford.jpgSeigle crofts cocoa.jpg

[x2drich2000]

Pat, I believe you are right, at least for cocoa backs. I'll see if I have a chance to start a new thread later tonight with several other miscuts.

DJ