PWCC Part Deux

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So it's OK to ask someone to bid on someone else's card?

Where the hell did you see me say that?
James

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

Where the hell did you see me say that?
James

I was asking, because you seemed to be making the distinction.

[Arazi4442]

I don't really care who owned the card, who was the bidder or who put the card up for auction. If a person who is consigning an auction asks a 3rd party to bid up the auction, that is unethical and a serious problem for the hobby.

[nrm1977]

Originally Posted by Arazi4442

I don't really care who owned the card, who was the bidder or who put the card up for auction. If a person who is consigning an auction asks a 3rd party to bid up the auction, that is unethical and a serious problem for the hobby.

I concur 100%! I'm sure we're just grazing the tip of the ice-berg. Hopefully big brother is "watching".

[jfkheat]

I was correcting what BruinsFan said about PWCC asking someone to bid on their own card. How you came up with this meaning that I thought it was ok for someone to bid on their own card is beyond me.
James

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

I was correcting what BruinsFan said about PWCC asking someone to bid on their own card. How you came up with this meaning that I thought it was ok for someone to bid on their own card is beyond me.
James

Now I am confused, because my question concerned bidding at the request of the auction house on someone ELSE's card not one's own.

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Now I am confused, because my question concerned bidding at the request of the auction house on someone ELSE's card not one's own.

No, you were confused when you responded to my first comment. I mis-read the part about someone else's card but I still don't see how you thought I was condoning any auction house asking anyone to bid on any card they have listed. Let's see if this confuses you, I'M DONE WITH THIS CONVERSATION.
James

[Arazi4442]

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding you, James. My only point is that NO ONE who profits off an auction should be speaking to any 3rd party to bid up that auction.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

where the hell did you see me say that?
James

lol.

[PhillipAbbott79]

You do not ask someone to change their bidding habits and ask them to bid higher on a card because it will be overtaken by the next bid. You explain to them that you will block them if they continue what they are doing.

They warn for bid retractions. Why wouldn't they warn him? To me the request from Brent is not open to interpretation based on how they handle other warnings and other bidders. Warn and Block. This is not warn and block. Period.

[brob28]

Exactly Phillip, my memory may not be exact here and I'm not going to search the previous thread again, but as I recall Betsy indicated they had bidding issues with Courtney in the past had discussed them with him and he reverted back to his old ways on this auction. So why not ban him and restart the auction? He had already been warned and if we can believe the text messages they clearly knew he did not want to win the auction. Had they done that they would have shown a real commitment to cleaning up the bidding in their auctions, they also might get more bidders into the next auction that were staying away due to the "strange" bidding in the current auction. Win -win for PWCC - but nope, makes more sense to start texting a bidder in your auctions whom you know has been a problem in the past.

Courtney appears to be no saint, but PWCC appears to have known the card was doctored and said nothing and appears to have been shown to contact bidders and tell them to bid while assuring them they wont win the auction while the auction is live.

[Rich Falvo]

I went back and read the whole original thread. To a relative newcomer, it was very educational and very scary. Mostly, it made me glad I'm not involved in big-ticket cards.