Storing Cards in a Fireproof Safe

[irv]

Before anyone gets all excited thinking their cards/collections are safe from theft, think again.
I was very close to purchasing a safe myself, and still may for the fire protection side of it, but not for stopping thieves.

I know nothing is a 100% fool proof and if someone wants something bad enough, they'll get it, but this was a real eye opener for me.

Not sure what the alternatives are but something has to be out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3p5KUNfDG0

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by irv

Before anyone gets all excited thinking their cards/collections are safe from theft, think again.
I was very close to purchasing a safe myself, and still may for the fire protection side of it, but not for stopping thieves.

I know nothing is a 100% fool proof and if someone wants something bad enough, they'll get it, but this was a real eye opener for me.

Not sure what the alternatives are but something has to be out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3p5KUNfDG0

Pretty much all locks are super easy to open. I used to love those Master Lock commercials. They would show the lock getting shot with a high power rifle and say it is still locked.LOL Yes but a small sliver off a soda can will open it as fast as that guy did the safe. Locks only keep honest people honest.

[Exhibitman]

Safe deposit box the best, insure the rest. Forget about the safe. Besides, if you keep all your valuable stuff in a safe you just packed it all up nicely for a burglar or gave a robber something to force you to open while he holds a gun to your kid's head.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by irv

Before anyone gets all excited thinking their cards/collections are safe from theft, think again.
I was very close to purchasing a safe myself, and still may for the fire protection side of it, but not for stopping thieves.

I know nothing is a 100% fool proof and if someone wants something bad enough, they'll get it, but this was a real eye opener for me.

Not sure what the alternatives are but something has to be out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3p5KUNfDG0

Both fireproof safes I have are 95 lbs empty. Granted I'm not that big and can lift it myself, but it definitely takes some effort and you're not going anywhere quickly or easily. Thieves are going to go after easily accessible stuff - my Xbox, TV, etc. I want to protect more against the fire/water damage side of things, though. Mistakes happen more often than theft, and I'd rather not bet against my human-error nature.

Also, if you get a very large gun safe (64 guns), especially a Liberty Safe, you're pretty much set. If someone does steal it, commend them - they have truly mastered theft. Those things weigh around 900-1000 lbs and have a great security system on them. You could store A LOT of cards on one of those bad boys.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Safe deposit box the best, insure the rest. Forget about the safe. Besides, if you keep all your valuable stuff in a safe you just packed it all up nicely for a burglar or gave a robber something to force you to open while he holds a gun to your kid's head.

Not to further open the previously opened can of worms, but this is one reason why I have firearms.

[Vintageismygame]

I have 2 of the Fort Knox Defenders that I use to house my grandmothers "strings to short to use for anything" collection. Each of these safes weigh in at over 1500 lbs. We had to crane them in when we were building.

Matt

[Eggoman]

As previously stated...safes & locks are for HONEST folks...

Tell no one that you have one. Don't open it in front of people. Conceal it in a location that is NOT obvious. Bolt it to the walls or floor, if possible. (SOME fire-proof safes allow for this WITHOUT jeopardizing their integrity.)

You do not get a quality safe without paying for quality.

Just my 2 cents...

[yanksfan09]

For large gun safes you can mount a dry rod that plugs in (safe needs to have holes for electrical cord, most do.) This keeps interior of safe at a consistent degree or 2 over outside area to expel moisture.

For smaller safes you can buy a rechargeable desiccant pack such as the Stack On cordless dehumidifier. The beads change color when it needs recharging (not all that often, depends on climate and size of area it's working in).

https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...FQdXDQodq-EBJQ

[thenextlevel]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

Also, if you get a very large gun safe (64 guns), especially a Liberty Safe, you're pretty much set. If someone does steal it, commend them - they have truly mastered theft. Those things weigh around 900-1000 lbs and have a great security system on them. You could store A LOT of cards on one of those bad boys.

I have a Liberty Presidential safe, and it was so heavy, I didn't know how they were going to get this thing into my house. I love it, and I highly recommend this brand of safe. I think it was close to 1300lbs.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by thenextlevel

I have a Liberty Presidential safe, and it was so heavy, I didn't know how they were going to get this thing into my house. I love it, and I highly recommend this brand of safe. I think it was close to 1300lbs.

I see a few of these my safe weight too much to carry out threads. I hate to tell you guys this but they do not want the heavy safe. They want what is inside of it.

I have a life long friend that is a locksmith and I have watched him open every type of safe imaginable in a few minutes or less. Just like any job once you know how to do it, it is easy.

[thenextlevel]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I see a few of these my safe weight too much to carry out threads. I hate to tell you guys this but they do not want the heavy safe. They want what is inside of it.

I have a life long friend that is a locksmith and I have watched him open every type of safe imaginable in a few minutes or less. Just like any job once you know how to do it, it is easy.

That's where you have a nice home security system in place, not to mention, I also have safe deposit boxes. I would never have just a safe w/o other security measures. I understand that they can break into a safe within your domicile.