Sitting out for the batting title...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Lame. If Ted Williams can play two meaningless games rather than sit out to ensure his .400, this young man can play to earn (or lose) his title.

[bravos4evr]

It's fair, Murphy would not have played if he was healthy (meaningless game for his team) so why should DJ have to?

BTW, this was the manager's decision,LeMahieu wanted to play.

besides, batting avg is such a silly arbitrary stat that the award has very little meaning anymore.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

It's fair, Murphy would not have played if he was healthy (meaningless game for his team) so why should DJ have to?

BTW, this was the manager's decision,LeMahieu wanted to play.

besides, batting avg is such a silly arbitrary stat that the award has very little meaning anymore.

I got a feeling at contract time/arbitration LeMahieu wont agree there is very little meaning.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I got a feeling at contract time/arbitration LeMahieu wont agree there is very little meaning.

He's signed through next year, and teams are smart enough in free agency (well most of em anyway) to overlook a flukey career year by a player at Coor's field.

[bravos4evr]

there was a great tweet by Brian Kenny yesterday that sums up my opinion pretty well:

"NL Batting Title on the line today:
wRC+
1. Votto 159
2. Murphy 156
3. Freeman 154
..
Walt Weiss can play anyone he likes.."

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

He's signed through next year, and teams are smart enough in free agency (well most of em anyway) to overlook a flukey career year by a player at Coor's field.

Diagree. Vinny Castilla comes to mind...royce clayton tore it up in colorado and got a nice contract.....'most' of the teams not paying doesnt matter...as long as one pays then its a bargaining trip.....a player can only sign with one team initially..he doesnt need every team to want him..

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Diagree. Vinny Castilla comes to mind...royce clayton tore it up in colorado and got a nice contract.....'most' of the teams not paying doesnt matter...as long as one pays then its a bargaining trip.....a player can only sign with one team initially..he doesnt need every team to want him..

that was a long time ago pre-metrics, teams (well most of em anyway) are smarter than they used to be

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

It's fair, Murphy would not have played if he was healthy (meaningless game for his team) so why should DJ have to?

BTW, this was the manager's decision,LeMahieu wanted to play.

besides, batting avg is such a silly arbitrary stat that the award has very little meaning anymore.

Do you really think that if the dude had insisted on playing, saying it was important to him to win it or lose it legitimately, the manager would have said no?

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do you really think that if the dude had insisted on playing, saying it was important to him to win it or lose it legitimately, the manager would have said no?

apparently that's exactly what happened. (then Weiss resigned today! lol)

I get both sides, Weiss sees it as a plus for the org on a mediocre year, DJ wants to "win it" (and I would agree if Murphy was also playing, but with him out I don't think that it's a vice to sit DJ)

[howard38]

If he did want to play it doesn't sound like he was very insistent about it. Seems more like he was relieved that Weiss made the decision.

"Part of me wants to be out there competing, doing what I've been doing all year. The other part of me -- there's something really special out there, and I'm going to let Walt take care of that."

[clydepepper]

Bunch of Punks if you ask me (I think Mr. Williams would agree)

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Bunch of Punks if you ask me (I think Mr. Williams would agree)

+1

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

apparently that's exactly what happened. (then Weiss resigned today! lol)

I get both sides, Weiss sees it as a plus for the org on a mediocre year, DJ wants to "win it" (and I would agree if Murphy was also playing, but with him out I don't think that it's a vice to sit DJ)

I dont get both sides. The guy was a complete chicken shit....

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I dont get both sides. The guy was a complete chicken shit....

of course you don't, you still think it's the Jurassic era of baseball.


A- nobody cares about the batting avg title anymore

B- winning it in on the DL is no different than winning it on the bench

C- it's a silly pointless award that has zero impact on who the actual best hitter was in the league (it was Joey Votto)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

of course you don't, you still think it's the Jurassic era of baseball.


A- nobody cares about the batting avg title anymore

B- winning it in on the DL is no different than winning it on the bench

C- it's a silly pointless award that has zero impact on who the actual best hitter was in the league (it was Joey Votto)

Kinda begs the question why Weiss sat him out then.

[Leon]

As someone who doesn't study stats, I think batting average is very important. As for sitting out, I don't really have an opinion one way or the other right now.

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

It's fair, Murphy would not have played if he was healthy (meaningless game for his team) so why should DJ have to?

BTW, this was the manager's decision,LeMahieu wanted to play.

besides, batting avg is such a silly arbitrary stat that the award has very little meaning anymore.