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Old 09-09-2016, 08:34 PM
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I missed that fact.
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I agree, just like with the "blackless" 82s, the facsimile signature is not present on this card
The Beckert seems to be missing more than just black, or the Garvey just had a better base color scheme and comes across more colorful w/o black?
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The Beckert seems to be missing more than just black, or the Garvey just had a better base color scheme and comes across more colorful w/o black?
You're right, I didn't notice that. The Beckert definitely has more issues . The Garvey is just missing the black, the Beckert is missing practically every color.

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Old 09-10-2016, 05:18 AM
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The Beckert looks like a "Cyan Color Progression Proof." The Garvey just looks like it missed one color pass, but the distinctive one for this issue. Any possibility it's just sun faded or altered?
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I believe it's a progression proof.

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Is that yours? That is cool either way.

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I believe it's a progression proof.
I did buy it. It was quite hard to pull the trigger at that price, but I really liked the look of it and figure that there can't be too many like that out there, whether it be a printing proof, printing error or other. If it turns out to be fake, well that would just plain suck, but it won't put me in the poor house!
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Old 09-10-2016, 05:29 PM
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Here is a 1971 Garvey "no yellow" and a close up of the ink pattern. I had it graded by Mike Baker at GAI years ago to protect it...GAI 7 No Yellow.
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Here is a 1971 Garvey "no yellow" and a close up of the ink pattern. I had it graded by Mike Baker at GAI years ago to protect it...GAI 7 No Yellow.
That Magenta looks awful pink and the black has that grey tint. Looks like it could be faded. I have not tried a 71 card but yellow is very easy to remove on several years of Topps cards.
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Is that yours? That is cool either way.

I did buy it. It was quite hard to pull the trigger at that price, but I really liked the look of it and figure that there can't be too many like that out there, whether it be a printing proof, printing error or other. If it turns out to be fake, well that would just plain suck, but it won't put me in the poor house!
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Yes; the '71 Brooks is mine and looks very similar to your example. I did pulled the card out since it l was similar to the example you pictured. The card I pictured does have a finished back. Also, I do have one other proof of the Brooks Robinson '71 Topps card w/less color present and it also has a finished back. I guarantee the Garvey you pictured is the real deal.

Glad you could add this card to your Garvey collection; it is a good one. It's likely that's the only one of its kind. These type of items are some of my favorites to pick up for my PC.

Congrats on the pickup!

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Awesome Brooksie Mark! Could you post the other one too?
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The Beckert looks like a "Cyan Color Progression Proof." The Garvey just looks like it missed one color pass, but the distinctive one for this issue. Any possibility it's just sun faded or altered?
I would say the Steve Garvey is 100% legit. Sun fading would never remove the black and leave the other colors perfect. Also can't imagine any technique that could remove the black ink and leave the cyan under it.
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Not sure I like the way that flip looks, appears to me the entire right side is cracked.
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The only problem I have with either one being a proof is that both of them have finished backs. Here is the back of the Beckert.
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Yeah, that's odd; I expected a blank back on the Beckert.
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The only problem I have with either one being a proof is that both of them have finished backs. Here is the back of the Beckert.
The word "proof" is thrown around like the word "error" and means something different to everyone. I know they both have specific meanings but are rarely used correctly.
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