SGC Gold Club "Specials"

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

And with the special I am now considering sending in all of my raw T206 commons at $5 per. Definitely a good offer.

Only problem in subbing your cards to SGC is that they will always come back in an SGC slab, not a PSA. The same graded card in PSA is usually going to sell for more. And, SGC apparently has either never seen, or doesn't know what an o/c card looks like. Have seen far too many 84 / 86 / 88 grades that are over graded due to being o/c.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Only problem in subbing your cards to SGC is that they will always come back in an SGC slab, not a PSA. The same graded card in PSA is usually going to sell for more. And, SGC apparently has either never seen, or doesn't know what an o/c card looks like. Have seen far too many 84 / 86 / 88 grades that are over graded due to being o/c.

My family and friends don't really think the amount of coin I spend on baseball cards is that absurd now that I explained how much people spend on little pieces of paper sometimes put in a plastic holder with baseball cards.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Only problem in subbing your cards to SGC is that they will always come back in an SGC slab, not a PSA. The same graded card in PSA is usually going to sell for more. And, SGC apparently has either never seen, or doesn't know what an o/c card looks like. Have seen far too many 84 / 86 / 88 grades that are over graded due to being o/c.

I'm okay with fuzzy corners and minor centering issues - I can't live with the PSA 5s with wrinkles. And I am yet to find an SGC 60 with one!

[Snapolit1]

PSA graded cards sometimes get a premium to SGC? Seriously? I need to look into this immediately. First I've heard of it.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

PSA graded cards sometimes get a premium to SGC? Seriously? I need to look into this immediately. First I've heard of it.

Believe it. A member on PSA is bragging about cracking out his SGC '9' and crossing it to PSA and snagging the exact same grade. His card just tripled in value! You rarely hear of people cracking out PSA cards to send to SGC. Very telling....

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Believe it. A member on PSA is bragging about cracking out his SGC '9' and crossing it to PSA and snagging the exact same grade. His card just tripled in value! You rarely hear of people cracking out PSA cards to send to SGC. Very telling....

Tripled? Really? I agree there is a difference in prices realized, but I've never heard or witnessed anything that extreme.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Tripled? Really? I agree there is a difference in prices realized, but I've never heard or witnessed anything that extreme.

Look at VCP. The data is all there. You can see the purchase price and you can see what PSA 9's typically sell for.

[Blackie]

PSA certainly tightened up their shot group in regards to grading... ... From what I've seen in recently holstered cards

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Look at VCP. The data is all there. You can see the purchase price and you can see what PSA 9's typically sell for.

I don't understand what you're saying here. Purchase price has nothing to do with saying a PSA 9 realizes triple the value of an SGC 96. That is what it appeared to me you were saying the person was claiming.

Unless you're saying he purchased the SGC 96 for 1/3, but that seems more like a fluke great buy than anything consistent.

I sell both though I only use PSA for grading myself, because of the higher prices, but like I said I've never seen anything triple.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Believe it. A member on PSA is bragging about cracking out his SGC '9' and crossing it to PSA and snagging the exact same grade. His card just tripled in value! You rarely hear of people cracking out PSA cards to send to SGC. Very telling....

As the population of PSA cards is significantly higher for any given issue - I routinely search out good deals on PSA slabs and submit to SGC for crossover. The only problem I have is that my successful crossover rate (PSA to SGC) runs around 50% success.

However the resale of "non crossable" PSA Slabs is never a problem. For this reason - I dont crack - just send slabs for crossover.

Note that my collecting interests are post war mid 50s. BTW - I havent seen much difference in success even with the new PSA "Hologram" slabs.

Not looking for flames - just posting my personal experience. In my mind SGC hands down offers a more consistently graded product in a better looking holder.

SGC Gold Club -Not a fan but thats another post.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

As the population of PSA cards is significantly higher for any given issue - I routinely search out good deals on PSA slabs and submit to SGC for crossover. The only problem I have is that my successful crossover rate (PSA to SGC) runs around 50% success.

However the resale of "non crossable" PSA Slabs is never a problem. For this reason - I dont crack - just send slabs for crossover.

Note that my collecting interests are post war mid 50s. BTW - I havent seen much difference in success even with the new PSA "Hologram" slabs.

Not looking for flames - just posting my personal experience. In my mind SGC hands down offers a more consistently graded product in a better looking holder.

SGC Gold Club -Not a fan but thats another post.

And therein lies the rub. A successful crossover rate from SGC to PSA is also around 40-50%. It seems like these two companies refuse to accept the others work as valid. You also get the same thing in the art industry. I watched an episode of "Fake or Fortune" where one art gallery said a painting was a Renoir, and their competition refused to acknowledge it as such. It's like these two card grading giants refuse to acknowledge that their competitor is any good.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

And therein lies the rub. A successful crossover rate from SGC to PSA is also around 40-50%. It seems like these two companies refuse to accept the others work as valid. You also get the same thing in the art industry. I watched an episode of "Fake or Fortune" where one art gallery said a painting was a Renoir, and their competition refused to acknowledge it as such. It's like these two card grading giants refuse to acknowledge that their competitor is any good.

I think the bad crossover rate is because they grade so much differently. SGC gives a little more on off center and PSA gives a little more for wrinkles. There are a few other differences but those seem to be the main two.

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I'm okay with fuzzy corners and minor centering issues - I can't live with the PSA 5s with wrinkles. And I am yet to find an SGC 60 with one!

Since they tightened their grading screws, don't think you will find any? many? PSA 5's with wrinkles, esp. on new flips with their logo.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Since they tightened their grading screws, don't think you will find any? many? PSA 5's with wrinkles, esp. on new flips with their logo.

Don't you understand that in a few years they will change their flips again (or add .25 scale) and then encourage people to keep re-holdering their collection "to keep up with" current grading standards? How people fall for that is beyond me. SGC does the same thing, and it boggles my mind.

But, in this case, what you're saying, is PSA grabbed a significant market share over the past two decades based on over-grading. So don't trust PSA, unless there is a hologram on the flip. Maybe if you look closely at the hologram, it says: "PSA: This Time We've Tightened Our Grading Screws."

EDITED TO ADD:

Also, I just compared what I collect -- both PSA 5 and SGC 60 T206 cards -- on ebay. I see no evidence that PSA 5 T206s are doing better than SGC 60 T206s at market. See for yourself here:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop=..._skc=100&rt=nc

[Piratedogcardshows]

I like the specials. Only problem is I jumped the gun and send a batch for grading under the 7/card special before they announced the member specials. Oh well im looking forward to getting the sub back.

[basesareempty]

I think that even a $6/$250 max/30 day would have been a better splash to kick start their Gold Club and gain some market share. I mean they are grading the condition of a piece of cardboard, regardless of value. We pay the return insurance so there is no liability there. For a $250 threshold I believe they would have seen a large increase in submissions.

This is great for some. T206Collector contemplating sending a large number of low value T206 cards makes sense to him at $5.

I agree that the $8 autograph authentication is a nice deal if that is your thing.

Just disappointed that before the Gold Club they ran specials for $6-8 per with a $100 threshold and no membership was required. So by becoming a Gold Club Member you get a few vouchers plus you can send the same cards for a couple dollar discount over their previous specials.

Their Non Member $50/2 day special is probably something I would never have a use for.

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by Jason

I like the specials. Only problem is I jumped the gun and send a batch for grading under the 7/card special before they announced the member specials. Oh well im looking forward to getting the sub back.

Hey there Jason,

KeepiN Everthin iN Perspective...
SGC's Customer Service is Heads Above the Rest!
I'd Give'em a Call, I'm Sure They'll Understand
And Compensate You the Best they are able to!
Truly can't hurt... RiGHT!?!?

I'm Gunna wait a bit and Join as Need be...
SGC is Still evolving inta what the forefront Will
And Should LooK Like iN the time to come...

Of Course THiS JuST One Irishmen's Humble Opinion

[cammb]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I'm okay with fuzzy corners and minor centering issues - I can't live with the PSA 5s with wrinkles. And I am yet to find an SGC 60 with one!

+1

[familytoad]

I am bringing this thread back to the top to see what our members think *now* of the SGC membership club.

It's been a few months since it was introduced...do you think it's worth it?
I am considering joining.

I have quite a few SGC cards , all of my prewar sets and HOF singles for example.
It's been a relatively slow Prewar year for me, but I have gathered up a stash of cards that I would like to slab.

Any new experiences with the Gold club (or whatever it's called) that you care to share?

[kmac32]

Talked to SGC the other day and on the 125 dollar membership, the 10 cards are submitted as 2 5 card vouchers for submission. Probably an average deal overall and if you submitted frequently might pay for itself. For us little guys nothing spectacular here. With all this said, you do get a free tshirt. LOL

[glynparson]

the $5 deal doesn't sound to bad. I wonder why add this though when it is one of the biggest gripes people had about PSA. Having to join to get the best prices.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by glynparson

the $5 deal doesn't sound to bad. I wonder why add this though when it is one of the biggest gripes people had about PSA. Having to join to get the best prices.

Clubs aren't a bad idea to potentially increase revenue and loyalty. I will be sending in a submission very soon to keep my 17 yrs straight of submitting to them...


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