Opinions on Signed Mantle/Dimaggio/Berra/Mays Ball

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Cruise1659

I recently purchased this ball that was listed on eBay. It is supposedly signed by Mickey Mantle, Joe D, Yogi B, and W. Mays. The seller said he went to several signing events back in the late 80's and early 90's and got this ball signed at an event in the Bay area of California where all 4 guys were present. I attached several photos of the ball here. I have already sent in a QuickOpinion of the listing to PSA/DNA to see what they think. I purchased it through PayPal exclusively outside of eBay so I believe I have their buyer protection. In the event that this is fake, I should be able to get my money back.

Thus, my question is: REAL or FORGERY?

If you purchased it "outside of Ebay" why does the Ebay auction read as "Sold?"



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[Cruise1659]

After I purchased it through PayPal, the listing was never taken down. So I went on my brothers eBay account and hit "but it now" to see what the seller would say (I was trying to see if he was BS'ing me). He sent a message to my brothers ebay saying that the item had already sold. Not sure why he left it up and increased the price for that matter...

One concern I have is - he said he obtained the autographs in 1987-88. If you notice, its a Rawlings "bobby brown" ball. If you look it up, those particular balls should have "Haiti" listed under the Rawlings logo if it was in 1987-88. This ball has no logo underneath the rawlings, which indicates it was manufactured after 1993. Seems fishy.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Cruise1659

After I purchased it through PayPal, the listing was never taken down. So I went on my brothers eBay account and hit "but it now" to see what the seller would say (I was trying to see if he was BS'ing me). He sent a message to my brothers ebay saying that the item had already sold. Not sure why he left it up and increased the price for that matter...

One concern I have is - he said he obtained the autographs in 1987-88. If you notice, its a Rawlings "bobby brown" ball. If you look it up, those particular balls should have "Haiti" listed under the Rawlings logo if it was in 1987-88. This ball has no logo underneath the rawlings, which indicates it was manufactured after 1993. Seems fishy.

Since you don't know autographs, you should have researched the baseball before you purchased it and not after.....

[Cruise1659]

Point taken. It was a mistake.
Will be interesting to see what PSA/DNA quickopinion says

[Cruise1659]

Seller states that he left the listing up in order to save himself from having to pay a fee for taking it down early.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Cruise1659

Seller states that he left the listing up in order to save himself from having to pay a fee for taking it down early.

If it was a "Buy It Now" or "Buy It Now/Best Offer" auction, there is no fee for taking it down early.

[thetruthisoutthere]

It's irrelevant now.

Just get your money back.

[gnaz01]

Yeah, that ^^^

[Cruise1659]

Is it the fact that he stated that he obtained all signatures in person that leads you to believe it is fake? OR are there serious issues with the signatures themselves?