BST Ediquite Question:

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I am not sure that BST ediquite has been adequately defined.

Ediquitte has two ts, I believe¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Paul S

Ediquitte has two ts, I believe¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And no d's. Frank was being facetious. Or was it fahseeshuss?

[scooter729]

When I'm the seller and get a message like that, I respond that it's available and provide payment instructions. If there's another interested party in the interim before payment, I would give the first buyer a reasonable amount of time to make the payment before moving on to door #2. I tell the second person that I have a pending deal, but will let them know if anything falls through.

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by scooter729

When I'm the seller and get a message like that, I respond that it's available and provide payment instructions. If there's another interested party in the interim before payment, I would give the first buyer a reasonable amount of time to make the payment before moving on to door #2. I tell the second person that I have a pending deal, but will let them know if anything falls through.

Totally agree and if I didn't hear anything back after a reasonable wait I would tell the buyer I'm going to move on if I don't hear back within x number of hours. I mean...."we're living in a society" for gosh sakes!!!!!!

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by scooter729

And no d's. Frank was being facetious. Or was it fahseeshuss?

So was I

[7nohitter]

Ray,

Totally agree that you should have been given more time, especially since you told the seller, 'I'll take it.'

Was the seller new or a longtime board member? I ask only because I just recently joined Blowout cards where it seems that payment is expected within seconds of an 'I'll take it.'

I love the BST here and have made some incredible purchases from great sellers.

[irv]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Ray,

Totally agree that you should have been given more time, especially since you told the seller, 'I'll take it.'

Was the seller new or a longtime board member? I ask only because I just recently joined Blowout cards where it seems that payment is expected within seconds of an 'I'll take it.'

I love the BST here and have made some incredible purchases from great sellers.

How's this grab you?

I won a card in the Live Auction here and it was a card I wanted badly!

Seller contacted me and mentioned something about financial difficulty and to get a leg up with my payment. I obliged and promptly sent a cheque for the sale amount.

Seller seemed to get upset due to some banking issue with my cheque and also mentioned shipping was going to be X number of dollars, to which I replied, another cheque would be sent to cover that.

Long story short, and within a couple days, seller contacted the under bidder before I was afforded the opportunity to even send my cheque and sold it to him.

Yes, by far, my worse ever transaction here on Net 54. Glad other members that I have purchased from here are not like this.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by irv

How's this grab you?



I won a card in the Live Auction here and it was a card I wanted badly!



Seller contacted me and mentioned something about financial difficulty and to get a leg up with my payment. I obliged and promptly sent a cheque for the sale amount.



Seller seemed to get upset due to some banking issue with my cheque and also mentioned shipping was going to be X number of dollars, to which I replied, another cheque would be sent to cover that.



Long story short, and within a couple days, seller contacted the under bidder before I was afforded the opportunity to even send my cheque and sold it to him.



Yes, by far, my worse ever transaction here on Net 54. Glad other members that I have purchased from here are not like this.

What banking issue?

[irv]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

What banking issue?

The bank wanted to charge him a $2.00 fee for cashing the cheque.

Yes, $2.00 dollars.

Shipping was going to be $9.50, to which, like I already stated, I would send another cheque to cover the additional costs.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by irv

How's this grab you?

I won a card in the Live Auction here and it was a card I wanted badly!

Seller contacted me and mentioned something about financial difficulty and to get a leg up with my payment. I obliged and promptly sent a cheque for the sale amount.

Seller seemed to get upset due to some banking issue with my cheque and also mentioned shipping was going to be X number of dollars, to which I replied, another cheque would be sent to cover that.

Long story short, and within a couple days, seller contacted the under bidder before I was afforded the opportunity to even send my cheque and sold it to him.

Yes, by far, my worse ever transaction here on Net 54. Glad other members that I have purchased from here are not like this.

I don't really want to sidetrack Raymond's thread, but since it already has been undone, I am the seller irv speaks of.

This is the brief version - the whole thing is a lot more maddening than I am writing. It actually transpired over a week and many email exchanges. It's true that I did not have a PP account at that time. The card in question is the 58T Mantle/Aaron combo.

Card sold for $30 + $3 shipping.

I told him that I had never shipped outside the U.S. before and to let me know approx what that cost would be. He replies maybe a couple of dollars more than the $3. Says he will ask his wife about the exchange rate and best way to pay w/check.

I receive a check for $30 total. I ask him about the shipping. He says he will send another check for the additional amount.

Meanwhile, I take the first check to my bank and ask them about the protocol. The check is made out payable to the bearer: $30.00 USD (fair enough - I would get my initial $30, and the exchange rate comes out of his account and expect the shipping later).

My bank says there will probably be a collection fee and it could take days.
His bank is ****** *****, and at the top of the printed check there is something to the effect of TDCanada.com. My bank advises me to take it to my local TD and see if they will honor it, thus saving him the collection fees and I get my money on the spot - minus shipping.

On my way home from the bank I stop at the PO to mail off some cards. I had a single-card package and ask what it would cost to send something identical to Canada: $9.50 + cushion mailer.

I get home and email him if he really wants to pay $10 for a $30 card? And, why didn't he know that shipping would cost so much? He said he never looked at the shipping costs on his PP invoices. I suggest that if he needs any other cards to let me know, because adding a few extra cards is virtually the same shipping cost. We settle upon 2 52Ts.

Soon enough, before I can scan them, I get an email asking me to send scans and he will decide if he wants to cancel the transaction.

I went to the underbidder.

[buymycards]

If you put the card in a small photo mailer, you can mail it to Canada for $1.36. It is $1.15 for a 2 oz letter plus .21 for a non-machinable surcharge. No tracking available.

A graded card in a bubble mailer would be $9.50 which includes tracking.

[Luke]

[QUOTE=Paul S;1561428]I don't really want to sidetrack Raymond's thread, but since it already has been undone, I am the seller irv speaks of.

Yeah, when I read his version of events, I didn't think it looked particularly good for him. Don't think anyone would blame you for going to another buyer. It's crazy to not give you money for shipping and to somehow feel like it's your fault you had to sell to someone else.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Paul S

I don't really want to sidetrack Raymond's thread, but since it already has been undone, I am the seller irv speaks of.

This is the brief version - the whole thing is a lot more maddening than I am writing. It actually transpired over a week and many email exchanges. It's true that I did not have a PP account at that time. The card in question is the 58T Mantle/Aaron combo.

Card sold for $30 + $3 shipping.

I told him that I had never shipped outside the U.S. before and to let me know approx what that cost would be. He replies maybe a couple of dollars more than the $3. Says he will ask his wife about the exchange rate and best way to pay w/check.

I receive a check for $30 total. I ask him about the shipping. He says he will send another check for the additional amount.

Meanwhile, I take the first check to my bank and ask them about the protocol. The check is made out payable to the bearer: $30.00 USD (fair enough - I would get my initial $30, and the exchange rate comes out of his account and expect the shipping later).

My bank says there will probably be a collection fee and it could take days.
His bank is ****** *****, and at the top of the printed check there is something to the effect of TDCanada.com. My bank advises me to take it to my local TD and see if they will honor it, thus saving him the collection fees and I get my money on the spot - minus shipping.

On my way home from the bank I stop at the PO to mail off some cards. I had a single-card package and ask what it would cost to send something identical to Canada: $9.50 + cushion mailer.

I get home and email him if he really wants to pay $10 for a $30 card? And, why didn't he know that shipping would cost so much? He said he never looked at the shipping costs on his PP invoices. I suggest that if he needs any other cards to let me know, because adding a few extra cards is virtually the same shipping cost. We settle upon 2 52Ts.

Soon enough, before I can scan them, I get an email asking me to send scans and he will decide if he wants to cancel the transaction.

I went to the underbidder.

I guess it was inevitable for 'my' thread to be 'hijacked' - very appropriately that such occurred the very week the FBI finally, officially closed the D.B. Cooper file.

But, I am still pissed that the card I had agreed to purchase was sold out from under me...needless to say, I will NEVER attempt to do business with THAT particular member again. The more members we get, the bigger the chance that kind of inconsideration will occur...so, everyone get ready!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Paul S

I don't really want to sidetrack Raymond's thread, but since it already has been undone, I am the seller irv speaks of.

This is the brief version - the whole thing is a lot more maddening than I am writing. It actually transpired over a week and many email exchanges. It's true that I did not have a PP account at that time. The card in question is the 58T Mantle/Aaron combo.

Card sold for $30 + $3 shipping.

I told him that I had never shipped outside the U.S. before and to let me know approx what that cost would be. He replies maybe a couple of dollars more than the $3. Says he will ask his wife about the exchange rate and best way to pay w/check.

I receive a check for $30 total. I ask him about the shipping. He says he will send another check for the additional amount.

Meanwhile, I take the first check to my bank and ask them about the protocol. The check is made out payable to the bearer: $30.00 USD (fair enough - I would get my initial $30, and the exchange rate comes out of his account and expect the shipping later).

My bank says there will probably be a collection fee and it could take days.
His bank is ****** *****, and at the top of the printed check there is something to the effect of TDCanada.com. My bank advises me to take it to my local TD and see if they will honor it, thus saving him the collection fees and I get my money on the spot - minus shipping.

On my way home from the bank I stop at the PO to mail off some cards. I had a single-card package and ask what it would cost to send something identical to Canada: $9.50 + cushion mailer.

I get home and email him if he really wants to pay $10 for a $30 card? And, why didn't he know that shipping would cost so much? He said he never looked at the shipping costs on his PP invoices. I suggest that if he needs any other cards to let me know, because adding a few extra cards is virtually the same shipping cost. We settle upon 2 52Ts.

Soon enough, before I can scan them, I get an email asking me to send scans and he will decide if he wants to cancel the transaction.

I went to the underbidder.

Knowing what the postage is much more important in cheaper items where the postage can make up a large percentage of the purchase price

[SAllen2556]

Not to make any excuses for anyone, but once when I was selling cards on the BST I received a PM through my email to buy the cards at, let's say 4:30pm. I agreed. I then looked at the original post I had made and noticed a reply to buy on my original posting at 4:25pm. Because I received the PM in my email I had responded to that message without realizing that someone had already offered to purchase the cards 5 minutes earlier on my original listing.

Just saying that with two ways to respond to BST posts (PM's and replying on the original thread) it is possible to mess up if you don't check both the original thread and your personal messages. Any chance that's what happened here?

[Leon]

I believe this issue was just an honest mistake but with 20-20 hindsight the card should have been held, imo. I believe the seller sent a reply back to the buyer, buyer had to run to a meeting and couldn't reply back, and seller had a few other anxious buyers and sold it.

Since the seller didn't hear back (in time), as the potential buyer was in a meeting, he sold to another anxious buyer. A mistake but an honest one, imo.

If someone says "I will take it" then really a short waiting period should be in order. If someone tells me they will take a card it's theirs. We can work out the details later. I sold one on the BST very recently the same way.

[jmb]

It was a nice card. Maybe what SAllen said is what happened. I missed out on it also and I've been looking for one too.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Not to make any excuses for anyone, but once when I was selling cards on the BST I received a PM through my email to buy the cards at, let's say 4:30pm. I agreed. I then looked at the original post I had made and noticed a reply to buy on my original posting at 4:25pm. Because I received the PM in my email I had responded to that message without realizing that someone had already offered to purchase the cards 5 minutes earlier on my original listing.

Just saying that with two ways to respond to BST posts (PM's and replying on the original thread) it is possible to mess up if you don't check both the original thread and your personal messages. Any chance that's what happened here?

Scott- I sent a the PM I detailed earlier first and when I had not heard from the seller after several minutes...I made sure I posted a thread reply, 'PM sent...thanks'

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Ray,

Totally agree that you should have been given more time, especially since you told the seller, 'I'll take it.'

Was the seller new or a longtime board member? I ask only because I just recently joined Blowout cards where it seems that payment is expected within seconds of an 'I'll take it.'

I love the BST here and have made some incredible purchases from great sellers.

Andrew- the seller's listing was his 666th post...perhaps that particular number really IS to be avoided???!!!