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Old 07-07-2016, 09:48 AM
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A real good late career shouldn't make up for a largely underwhelming first two-thirds of a career.

100 is Major League average OPS +. Between 1998 and 2009, the first twelve years of his career, he had a 105 OPS +, and he ended below Major League average in six of those twelve seasons. In those twelve seasons, he had one, 2004, in which he received even a single MVP vote. He was never an All Star in those twelve years, and the first seven years, he played in Los Angeles, one of the biggest markets in America. Dodger fans didn't think enough of him to vote him to the Midsummer Classic--not once. Five good, not great, seasons don't make up for eleven disappointing ones.

He's played 2,646 games. He's remained healthy--that's why he'll make it to 3,000 hits. While playing that long is an accomplishment, is that worth Hall of Fame induction?

His career 162 game averages: .285 AVG, 26 HR, 93 RBI. .337 OBP/.476/.813.

Ask yourself this: has Beltre ever been one of the ten best players in the Majors? If you were to go back over the history of the game as it coincided with Beltre's career, would you put him on your top ten list? I wouldn't.

He has a career 115 OPS +. He has four Gold Gloves. In nineteen years, he's led the league in home runs, doubles, and hits one time each. That's it. He's had one season above a 150 OPS +, and only two others over 140.

Nothing about Beltre truly impresses me.
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