Dirty Work - post your Off Linemen

DBesse27 · #1 07-03-2016, 06:13 PM

Yes, ultra pro makes postcard sized soft sleeves. Great matchbook!

jefferyepayne · #2 07-04-2016, 07:16 AM

Be careful, John, your gonna get hooked on matchbook covers if you aren't careful!

John Spano wrote an excellent article on matchbooks for Gridiron Greats that discusses the various years and difficult ones to find. It's issue #39 if you want to check it out.

In summary, here's how to tell the difference between the years.

1933 - easy to tell, silver color. Bio info has either a green or pink background.

1934 - tan, red, green, or blue color. Picture is colorized. "The Diamond Match Co. N.Y.C." is printed near the striker

1935 - same as 1934 except the pictures are NOT colorized (they are B&W) and "Made in U.S.A. The Diamond Match Co. N.Y.C." is printed near the striker

1936 - vertical bars on R and L sides of player photo differentiates this set of the the ones before it.

1937 - exactly the same as the 1936 design. For players in both the 1936 and 1937 set, I believe the only way to differentiate them is that their bios are different. Compare this George Musso bio with the one above.

1938 - back to a silver background but with a yellow football in the center of the matchbook

I don't have any scans of this set but you can find them online pretty easily to see what they look like.

jeff

TanksAndSpartans · #3 07-05-2016, 10:10 AM

Thanks Guys!

Dan, I'll look into the postcard sleeves.

Jeff, great post! I'm going to conclude my Randolph is a 35 - thanks for teaching me how to fish

I do like these, but without paying high BIN prices, they definitely take patience as the auctions don't occur frequently. I'm been focused on a handful of players that I wanted an item in my collection, but no football card exists.

jefferyepayne · #4 07-05-2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TanksAndSpartans

I'm going to conclude my Randolph is a 35 - thanks for teaching me how to fish

Definitely a 1935.

If you're patient, you can pick these up for far, far less than the BINs on ebay. The best deals are usually through AH's when they are sold in lots.

jeff

revmoran · #5 07-06-2016, 09:45 AM

Here is a link to download a document with a little more detail about the differences between the matchbook sets and a check list of the players -https://storage.googleapis.com/mjmsp...ok%20Types.doc

And not a lineman but a 1938 example

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TanksAndSpartans · #6 07-07-2016, 08:48 PM

Thanks again Jeff.

And Mike - awesome document! That helps me a lot. Thank you. First thing I did was search for "Lavvie Dilweg". He's one of the players on my list that I was pretty sure didn't have a card or a matchbook while an active player and it's looking like that's true.

Beansballcardblog · #7 07-08-2016, 01:51 PM

It's been awhile since I've posted and I just started reading again last night. I have a few of these, but I will just start with this one. It's his only card, at least that I know of.

Mailday � 1954 Bowman Ralph Starkey PSA 6

jefferyepayne · #8 07-10-2016, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TanksAndSpartans

Thanks again Jeff.

And Mike - awesome document! That helps me a lot. Thank you. First thing I did was search for "Lavvie Dilweg". He's one of the players on my list that I was pretty sure didn't have a card or a matchbook while an active player and it's looking like that's true.

Depends on your definition of a "card". He has a Packers Walkers Cleaners.

It's not from his playing days but there's also this:

jeff

Den*nis O*Brien · #9 08-02-2017, 02:38 PM

.......Jim McMillen from the '20's and '30's. This is my first post on this side of the Forum and this thread offered up some great items that will insure my return to see more "Stuff". I am a 70 yr old life long Bears fan and loved the Cardinals and have very deep seated contempt for the Bidwell Family for pulling out of the south side. The stock yards did NOT smell that bad!

revmoran · #10 08-02-2017, 06:23 PM

My dad played for the Cardinals in the last part of the 1927 season - Chamberlin purchased him from the Frankford Yellow Jackets in part because of his kicking skills - and on the line this guy protected him

jefferyepayne · #11 08-07-2017, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den*nis O*Brien

.......Jim McMillen from the '20's and '30's. This is my first post on this side of the Forum and this thread offered up some great items that will insure my return to see more "Stuff". I am a 70 yr old life long Bears fan and loved the Cardinals and have very deep seated contempt for the Bidwell Family for pulling out of the south side. The stock yards did NOT smell that bad!

Welcome, Dennis! That is a fantastic photo. The Bidwell's are nomads that travel from state to state looking for cash. Not a fan at all, either!

Here's a signed photo I think you will like:

jeff

Duluth Eskimo · #12 08-07-2017, 02:51 PM

That photo is bad a$$. Revmoran has some great stuff too

cfhofer · #13 08-07-2017, 07:58 PM

Great Duke Slater photo Mike. While clearly worthy I doubt he will ever make it into the NFL HOF.

Den*nis O*Brien · #14 08-15-2017, 01:26 PM

[QUOTE=jefferyepayne;1687994]Welcome, Dennis! That is a fantastic photo. The Bidwell's are nomads that travel from state to state looking for cash. Not a fan at all, either!

Here's a signed photo I think you will like:

...for the compliment. Let me offer you one on the Staley's photo. If that is in your personal collection...you are very fortunate indeed. I'm sure you treasure it!!

DBesse27 · #15 11-30-2017, 10:11 PM

I won these color separation proofs from the Topps Vault for the 1980 Topps John Hannah card. My 2nd Vault Hannah purchase. I wish they had come with the yellow proof, but still, I love them.

For those who can't picture it, here is Hannah's 1980 Topps:

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