Questions about selling a postwar collection

[irv]

Originally Posted by capricesquad

I got a surprise E-mail from PSA today. Seems my order that I sent March 1st and was checked in on the 12 was shipped today. Nowhere near the 50 days I was expecting.

As far as grades go I am much happier than last time. No gem mint 10's but no complete junk grades either. Out of 25 there were 9 6's, 9 7's and 7 8's with a few qualifiers.

Nice, CS.

[capricesquad]

I was at my parents for easter and I went through and picked out 15 more 1962 Topps and 35 1961 Topps especially the high numbers to send in for the March special.

Some are doubles of cards I already submitted like the Mantles and Mays but most are very sharp looking and I focused on the 1961 High numbers as much as possible.

First 25 (Sorry for the angle the glare was awful and I was pressed for time after getting the submission entered.

[capricesquad]

2nd 25

[capricesquad]

The latest 50 have popped up online. One did come up as a 9 but 7 were rejected as being too small or miscut. What exactly does that mean and is there anything I should know about those cards?


EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1962 Topps 53 AL Home Run Leaders Card
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1962 Topps 288 Billy Williams Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1962 Topps 516 Checklist 507-598 Yellow Boxes
NEAR MINT 7 1962 Topps 500 Duke Snider Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 MC 1962 Topps 313 Maris Blasts 61st Card
NEAR MINT 7 1962 Topps 440 Joe Jay Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1962 Topps 470 Al Kaline All Star Card
N8: MISCUT 1962 Topps 312 Spahn Shows No-Hit Form Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1962 Topps 59 AL Strikeout Leaders Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1962 Topps 314 Colavito's Power Card
NEAR MINT 7 ST 1962 Topps 170 Ron Santo Card
NEAR MINT 7 1962 Topps 139 Babe Ruth Babe Hits 60-Green Tint Card
NEAR MINT 7 1962 Topps 54 NL Home Run Leaders Card
EXCELLENT 5 1962 Topps 310 Whitey Ford Card
NEAR MINT 7 1962 Topps 475 Whitey Ford All Star Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 Topps 589 Warren Spahn All Star Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 200 Warren Spahn Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 533 Jack Curtis Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 Topps 540 Jackie Jensen Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 Topps 583 Del Crandall All Star Card
N8: MISCUT 1961 Topps 415 Hank Aaron Card
MINT 9 1961 Topps 573 Ken Boyer All Star Card
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1961 Topps 307 Mantle Slams 2 Homers
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 89 Billy Martin Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 443 Duke Snider Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1961 Topps 472 Yogi Berra MVP Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1961 Topps 425 Yogi Berra Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 530 Bobby Malkmus Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 563 Bob Cerv Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 560 Barry Latman Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 549 Hal R. Smith Card
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1961 Topps 475 Mickey Mantle MVP Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 Topps 560 Barry Latman Card
EXCELLENT 5 1961 Topps 482 Willie Mays MVP Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 Topps 495 Elston Howard Card
N8: MISCUT 1961 Topps 557 Jose Valdivielso Card
N8: MISCUT 1961 Topps 548 Ted Wills Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 PD 1961 Topps 435 Orlando Cepeda Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 565 Felipe Alou Card
EXCELLENT 5 1961 Topps 338 Don Landrum Card
NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1961 Topps 260 Don Drysdale Card
NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1961 Topps 573 Ken Boyer All Star Card
N8: MISCUT 1961 Topps 1 Dick Groat Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 228 Yankees Team Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 586 Whitey Ford All Star Card
NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1961 Topps 460 Gil Hodges Card
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1961 Topps 568 Bill Skowron All Star Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 19 Cletis Boyer Card
NEAR MINT 7 1961 Topps 572 Brooks Robinson All Star Card
EXCELLENT 5 1961 Topps 41 NL Batting Leaders Card

[capricesquad]

Also the Babe hits 60 1962 topps green tint says it's a pop of 5 with only 5 higher. I'm assuming that's specifically the green tint card pop but they don't have a separate green tint price guide do they?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by capricesquad

Also the Babe hits 60 1962 topps green tint says it's a pop of 5 with only 5 higher. I'm assuming that's specifically the green tint card pop but they don't have a separate green tint price guide do they?

Yes, that would be for the Green Tint version of the card only. If you insert the ID# here: http://www.psacard.com/cert/00000001/
they normally will show the overall count of all cards, not just the green tint variant.
I am surprised they are still telling the difference, as I thought they were considering getting out of the Green Tint identification business.

Based on some messages on the PSA message board, it's up to their discretion whether to put Green Tint on the card or not, so it's not something you're always going to get. But congrats on that card. Congrats on the 9 as well.

[irv]

Originally Posted by swarmee

A little bit different, irv.

Min size requirement means that the cards don't measure up to the 2.5"x3.5" size of a standard card from those years. They have a different code for Evidence of Trimming. So what this means is that PSA believes they were probably short when they left the factory at Topps. Since they're not full size cards, they aren't going to grade them, but they also shouldn't have charged you for them.

The miscut ones I would ask PSA to still encapsulate them, as you're paying for them. Call them ASAP and put a hold on your shipping order and have them holdered.

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

It means they didn't meat the minimum size requirement but the cards show no signs of trimming or alteration. A miss cut from the factory. Quite common for that era. You could try again with the same company a different one, or keep or sell them raw. Others have had the same thing happen and have resubmitted to PSA and received numerical grades the second or third time. Grading is subjective so you never know.

Interesting.

So if it is fact these cards were mis-cut from the factory and therefore can't be authenticated, (that is what I am assuming?) then they are basically looked at as fakes, or not real, and that is why they are not slabbed?

Seems like a crappy deal if you know for a fact they are just mis-cuts and your cards are practically worth nothing and would be hard(er) to sell. (assuming again?)

Thanks for the clarification.

[irv]

Originally Posted by capricesquad

The latest 50 have popped up online. One did come up as a 9 but 7 were rejected as being too small or miscut. What exactly does that mean and is there anything I should know about those cards?

I don't know with a 100% certainty, but it would lead me to believe they were trimmed at some point with a knife or scissors?

I believe all cards submitted are put up against known real, uncut/trimmed ones to see if the size is the same? If they aren't, then they deem them trimmed.

[swarmee]

A little bit different, irv.

Min size requirement means that the cards don't measure up to the 2.5"x3.5" size of a standard card from those years. They have a different code for Evidence of Trimming. So what this means is that PSA believes they were probably short when they left the factory at Topps. Since they're not full size cards, they aren't going to grade them, but they also shouldn't have charged you for them.

The miscut ones I would ask PSA to still encapsulate them, as you're paying for them. Call them ASAP and put a hold on your shipping order and have them holdered.

[pokerplyr80]

It means they didn't meat the minimum size requirement but the cards show no signs of trimming or alteration. A miss cut from the factory. Quite common for that era. You could try again with the same company a different one, or keep or sell them raw. Others have had the same thing happen and have resubmitted to PSA and received numerical grades the second or third time. Grading is subjective so you never know.