3 Ty Cobb Lucky 7's just showed up on EBay.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Scocs

Seems like a misguided dealer. eBay is fraught with problems -- why wouldn't you use a reputable auction house?

because the cards are counterfeit.... But really, we don't know the owner, cards were slabbed 15 minutes from discovery, PSA doesn't tell us how they authenticate, 3 or 4 are sold on the "inside", and now the sloppy seconds hit the market with a company specializing in pennant stickers. If I had a vintage printing press, this is exactly how I would do it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

because the cards are counterfeit.... But really, we don't know the owner, cards were slabbed 15 minutes from discovery, PSA doesn't tell us how they authenticate, 3 or 4 are sold on the "inside", and now the sloppy seconds hit the market with a company specializing in pennant stickers. If I had a vintage printing press, this is exactly how I would do it.

Rick has been a dealer in cards for many many years. He has had some very high grade material. There's no conspiracy here. He's trying to sell direct as anyone would.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Rick has been a dealer in cards for many many years. He has had some very high grade material. There's no conspiracy here. He's trying to sell direct as anyone would.

Plus one big time. I've been doing business with Rick going back to the late 90's...It sounds like a lot of sour grapes....

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

because the cards are counterfeit.... But really, we don't know the owner, cards were slabbed 15 minutes from discovery, PSA doesn't tell us how they authenticate, 3 or 4 are sold on the "inside", and now the sloppy seconds hit the market with a company specializing in pennant stickers. If I had a vintage printing press, this is exactly how I would do it.

Well, it looks like it's time for this board to get an Ignore User function... you, sir, are woefully ignorant.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Well, it looks like it's time for this board to get an Ignore User function... you, sir, are woefully ignorant.

There is one and it is great!

[swarmee]

Then I guess I am woefully ignorant as well. ;-)

[Scocs]

Private sales off eBay are still fraught with problems...

[rhettyeakley]

I'm pretty skeptical of the supposed prices these have been bringing. I never in a million years thought of a T206 Cobb/Cobb as being a million dollar card (even if graded an 8 or something crazy). I just don't know if I believe that the nicest really sold for somewhere around 1-2mil like is being reported. It wouldn't be too hard to manipulate prices on these and convince collectors to overpay for the subsequent ones. I just can't imagine them selling for anywhere near what is being reported in an actual auction setting.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

I'm pretty skeptical of the supposed prices these have been bringing. I never in a million years thought of a T206 Cobb/Cobb as being a million dollar card (even if graded an 8 or something crazy). I just don't know if I believe that the nicest really sold for somewhere around 1-2mil like is being reported. It wouldn't be too hard to manipulate prices on these and convince collectors to overpay for the subsequent ones. I just can't imagine them selling for anywhere near what is being reported in an actual auction setting.

Agreed. 7 more show up and the price skyrockets? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Not saying it didn't happen, but wouldn't surprise me one bit if there is market manipulation taking place. Nobody in this hobby seems to learn a lesson.

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

I'm pretty skeptical of the supposed prices these have been bringing. I never in a million years thought of a T206 Cobb/Cobb as being a million dollar card (even if graded an 8 or something crazy). I just don't know if I believe that the nicest really sold for somewhere around 1-2mil like is being reported. It wouldn't be too hard to manipulate prices on these and convince collectors to overpay for the subsequent ones. I just can't imagine them selling for anywhere near what is being reported in an actual auction setting.

Don't know if I agree with this. There are a limited number of collectors that are able to purchase these very high dollar cards. Private sale or not, its what someone is willing to pay that is the true issue. Is it really price manipulation when there is only a single seller, I think not. There is only a single source of supply so it is truly and solely a function of supply and demand. It might be price maximization but I don't think it's price manipulation.