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Old 03-18-2016, 08:55 AM
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As pointed out this is a MC not OC. MC is used when ever the card is cut so that it shows a bit of the next card or in the very least text or photo is cut into.

Those that don't like MC or OC cards won't buy the card no matter what it is graded. They can see that flaw very easily. My point is that to me I prefer MC cards to regular.

When I have my Miscuts graded I want it to be graded fairly on the rest of the aspects. In this case there could possibly be other miscut e98 Macks, but this would be the best graded miscut. If you don't like miscuts it won't matter to you.

I understand if someone doesn't like qualifiers in their collection, but they can just simply not buy them. I can't easily distinguish a grade of a card that is miscut but graded by SGC merely off the assigned grade. I have to look very hard for other flaws.

When a grading company lumps factory "flaws" in with the post manufacturing flaws it can unfairly represent the card to an entire aspect of the hobby. That aspect is those of us that actually like factory flaws/errors. For a more thorough thought about this check out Frank's "Thoughts About A Grading Proposal" thread.
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I will say that this may seem like I am against SGC because they don't do any qualifiers, but I actually prefer them when it comes to my t205's and t207's. PSA still doesn't checklist the backs of these like they do for t206's (where they go all the way down to factory numbers). I really run into a conundrum when I have a Miscut (or other qualifier) that is a t205/t207 on who to use.

Good thing I don't grade very often (this is my first submission in over a year).
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I will say that this may seem like I am against SGC because they don't do any qualifiers, but I actually prefer them when it comes to my t205's and t207's. PSA still doesn't checklist the backs of these like they do for t206's (where they go all the way down to factory numbers). I really run into a conundrum when I have a Miscut (or other qualifier) that is a t205/t207 on who to use.

Good thing I don't grade very often (this is my first submission in over a year).
Very weird Andy. I like PSA for T206 now, but still like seeing T205 and 207s in SGC holders. I don't know why though.
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As pointed out this is a MC not OC. MC is used when ever the card is cut so that it shows a bit of the next card or in the very least text or photo is cut into.
This definition can then only apply to cards that have like borders. For cards with a full white boarder, it can be cut the same as a card with full bleed or a pattern/color border, yet have a different designation.

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This definition can then only apply to cards that have like borders. For cards with a full white boarder, it can be cut the same as a card with full bleed or a pattern/color border, yet have a different designation.
If the card has a full bleed the rules are slightly different because it doesn't become MC until it is obvious that it has gone into the next card, or that the text is cut into.
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I agree with liking the OC cards, when the appearance is still respectable. In a case like this one (wish I had a better scan handy), it allows me to get a card with NM-MT corners for much lower than a PSA 8 would've cost, and still presents well with solid R/L centering. So,
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The scan is o/c too! That's a beautiful card!
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The Mack on the throne in the OP would bug me; too far out of whack. But the 1952 Jackie is a beautiful card. I like qualifiers just because they can get me a really nice card with one identified issue to it at a price that is often a small fraction of the cost of an unqualified one. I recently picked up this card:



I know it is FB and my scan is not great but bear with me. A PSA 9 Brown sells for about $1,000; way out of my comfort zone. I picked up this one for $110. I've also picked up other qualified 9s recently for my collection, same idea. Spectacular cards with centering issues priced like lower to midgrade cards. My favorites are MC qualified cards with perfect fronts and miscut backs. Who cares about the back of a Topps card; half the time you can't read the blue or green ink on gray cardboard anyway.
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My favorites are MC qualified cards with perfect fronts and miscut backs. Who cares about the back of a Topps card; half the time you can't read the blue or green ink on gray cardboard anyway.
I totally agree! PSA seems pretty inconsistent on enforcing the back MC's too. Some get dinged for it and some don't. I see a lot of cards with slight back miscuts in non-qualified mid, or even high grade holders, which realize full price because the holder doesn't carry the dreaded qualifier. I then see others with slight back miscuts go for substantial discounts due the fact they are in qualified holders. Guessing maybe it has to do with the registry thingo? I don't know, nor do I judge... I just take advantage

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