the list (of criminals) is revealed

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by WindyCityGameUsed

Mark

In all seriousness you kind of sound like an employee of an AH trying to justify shill bidding.


These are my opinions and views from my experiences over the past 35+ years of being a hobbyist

Ron Kosiewicz

Ron,
I agree with much of what you say here. But, if you read my post again, you'll see that I'm not defending shill bidding. I'm saying:

1. I think it's quite possible a consignor might have shill bidding occur on his items without knowing it; the AH using that method rather than the preferred reserve method, to comply with a consignor's condition of his items hitting certain price. All the consignor knows is that his items either sell or don't - he doesn't know, or care, about the bidding history or computer code behind the scenes. Isn't it reasonable to see a scenario where this could happen?

2. I, personally, on items that I, personally am bidding on, do not care what is in the heart of the person I'm bidding against. I don't care if they want the item to resell, to add to their collection, to give to someone as a gift, or if it's someone trying to bump the price up. I'm NOT saying it's OK, I am saying that I, personally, bid what I want to bid, and if someone wants to play the shill game on me, they'd best realize they may very well get burned.

Others feel differently. I get that. If you or anyone wants to bid against me in an auction, feel free to do so regardless of your motive because I don't know what you're thinking and I don't care.

3. I'm saying that if an AH uses max bids to screw bidders, it's a crime that should be punishable by fine or jail. I don't know how I could've put that in stronger terms.

Now, as to your comment quoted above, I'm tired of defending myself against these personal attacks and accusations. No, I don't work for an auction house and never have. And I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the Communist Party.