Various T205 Variations of Danny Hoffman

[bn2cardz]

I understand that some may just consider type 2 and 4 printing flaws and not a true variant, but since there are multiple copies I consider them variants. Even if those are not considered variants in your book the Yellow and White second base can't be ignored as variants. For the purpose of this thread and those interested I will keep it divided as 4 variants as it may help understand the printing of the cards.

I finally was able to get back to seeing images on cardtarget. They don't seem to have as much info as they use to have. They only had 48 sales recorded. There may be some duplicating as I didn't sort through it all to find that out so I the counts may not be accurate.

I threw out one scan as it was hard to tell as it looks like it had been colored with a marker. So I only have the 47 Cardtarget cards. That isn't a very large sample but it should get us a little more understanding of the break down and by backs.

Type 1 Yellow 2nd no stripe: 29 of 47
Sweet Cap 25 Black
Sweet Cap 42 Black
Honest Long Cut
Piedmont (received in post 20)

Type 2 Yellow base with stripe: 1 of 47
Sweet Cap 42 Black
Sweet Cap 25 Black**

Type 3 White base full detail: 16 of 47
Sovereign
Polar Bear
Piedmont

Type 4 White base lack detail and (yellow triangle on base path): 1 of 47
Piedmont


**The cardtarget site only had the Sweet Cap 42 Black for type 2, but the one I own is Sweet Cap 25 Black as well as there being a 25 noted for sale in my original thread



If you have any more info on any of the front types with the corresponding back please let us know in this thread.

[T205 GB]

PWCC has a type 4 with Pied 25 listed in a PSA 5

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

PWCC has a type 4 with Pied 25 listed in a PSA 5

I would consider that type 3. As you can see there is no triangle of yellow near the 1st base on the path. But the lack of detail should be noticed in the nose and cheeks. PWCC's has a defined bridge of the nose as well as crease lines from the nose to the mouth. The type 3 and 4 do seem to have darker blacks and a more orange background compared to 1 and 2 (instead of vibrant red), but the lack of detail is the main difference between 3 and 4. Type 4 looks more like outline with no shading.

Here is the PWCC next to the one I post above:

[Econteachert205]

I have a black sweet cap 25 type 1 and a black sweet cap 42 type 2

[marcdelpercio]

I just picked up a Hoffman "stripe" variation with an Honest back. As far as I can see from the previous posted research, this is the first non-Sweet Caporal back with the stripe.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by marcdelpercio

I just picked up a Hoffman "stripe" variation with an Honest back. As far as I can see from the previous posted research, this is the first non-Sweet Caporal back with the stripe.

Nice!

This is the first I have seen, but I am not an expert and have limited data to research so this may not be the only one of its type. It is still cool to see that it does cross to a third back.

[Pat R]

I don't follow the T205's that close but since the stripe "variation" appears to be printing
flaw it makes sense to me that this would exist with the Honest Long
Cut back because it already existed with the no stripe "variation" and they
were both previously confirmed with SC 25 black and SC 42 black.