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Old 01-29-2016, 09:30 AM
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This may be a mistake on the government's part. I thought that lot was consigned by JOHN Orlando a BoSox batboy?
Or a member of his family. I have it on good word that is not the Joe Orlando affiliated with PSA.
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For curiosity sake was there any shills done

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Any other Net54 members want to come clean?

JC Clarke - multiple items consigned / all shilled by Jay Dyer
Kevin Struss - on the shill list once / but the victim far more often - any explanation?
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:43 AM
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Any other Net54 members want to come clean?

JC Clarke - multiple items consigned / all shilled by Jay Dyer
Kevin Struss - on the shill list once / but the victim far more often - any explanation?
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JC was already known as one of the Mastro shillers. The extent was not known though. I wonder who Jay Dyer is?
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JC was already known as one of the Mastro shillers. The extent was not known though. I wonder who Jay Dyer is?
But he isn't listed as a Shiller at all on the list...only a consignor.
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to think the consignor was unaware of the shilling. Think that could only happen if the house had access to a maximum bid - which they apparently did - so I guess it's possible :-) Besides, I think husband of tammy copped to it.......
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to think the consignor was unaware of the shilling. Think that could only happen if the house had access to a maximum bid - which they apparently did - so I guess it's possible :-) Besides, I think husband of tammy copped to it.......
I never said that JC didn't know...I simply stated that he wasn't the one doing the shilling. It's pretty clear that he was in the know based on the number of times his name is associated with Jay Dyer (now working for Huggins & Scott) and Shane Mooney (anyone know who that is?).

And I missed those old posts from husbandoftammy where he fessed up. I was off the Net54 site for a long stretch during that timeframe.
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1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate (180/180)
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I never said that JC didn't know...I simply stated that he wasn't the one doing the shilling. It's pretty clear that he was in the know based on the number of times his name is associated with Jay Dyer (now working for Huggins & Scott) and Shane Mooney (anyone know who that is?).

And I missed those old posts from husbandoftammy where he fessed up. I was off the Net54 site for a long stretch during that timeframe.
I believe they have testimony of Allen calling Clarke and asking if he wanted to "bump it" referring to upping the bid on one of his items. This came out a while back. I don't think Clarke has fessed up to it, but he never denied it when called on it a few times here in the recent past.
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Who's keeping a tally:

Peter Calderon from Heritage
PSA's "Board of Experts" + Authenticators
Dave Forman - Owner of SGC
Kevin Keating of Quality Autographs
Ken Goldin from Goldin Auctions
TJ Schwartz of SCD
Kevin Struss of Baseball Rarities
other Net54 Members (you know who you are)

Events leading up to "the list"...

REA president retires;
SGC moves to Florida;
Leon sells collection

Okay, the first and last ones are probably a stretch...just sayin'
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1923 V100 Willard's Chocolate (180/180)

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But he isn't listed as a Shiller at all on the list...only a consignor.
It's pretty obvious if you are consignor and the shiller is the same guy on every one of your consigned lots that there is a conspiracy to shill by the consignor.

And I've now seen information that his shill bidder possibly works for another auction house.
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It's pretty obvious if you are consignor and the shiller is the same guy on every one of your consigned lots that there is a conspiracy to shill by the consignor.

And I've now seen information that his shill bidder possibly works for another auction house.
He is listed on Huggins' website.

N. & Cent. Fla/S. Ga Rep:
Jay Dyer

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