PSA giving straight grades from Qualifiers

[irv]

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Often times yes, especially if it grades straight at only one grade lower. Plus, a straight grade will attract more buyers. Many buyers who would otherwise buy a straight 7 won't give the same card a second look if it's in a 9OC holder. Buying the holder, not the card...

Originally Posted by swarmee

The standard answer is that a qualifier drops the value approximately 2 points. Some people just hate the qualifiers and don't want them at all. So most 8(OC)s will sell for near 6 prices. Could be more or less depending on the card and the amount of the defect.

And of course drastic miscuts in T206 (name on top and bottom, back upside down), despite dropping the card 1-2 points in the Set Registry value, make the card more desirable because of how good the quality control actually was back in that set and how many people are looking for oddball cards from that set.

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

+1 for a number of reasons. It singles out and brings a flaw front and center. It's like a stat in a record book with an asterisk. It doesn't fit with any sort of grading consistency or common sense IMO, like a special group of flaws PSA made up and decided to note exclusively.

What's next, cards with back paper loss as PSA 8PL?, creases = PSA 4CR? Rounded corners = PSA 3RC? If the card is off-center or mis-cut, anyone can see that and judge it accordingly. Note it as a 6 then, I don't need an 8OC or 8MC to remind me the card is off-center.

What kills me is PSA will say (the folks at the show booths at least) you can submit requesting no qualifiers, they tell you it gets a two-point drop (fine, I'd rather that than qualifiers) - yet on my last submission, despite noting in size 48 font no qualifiers please - I got three back with qualifiers When I called and pointed out my submission notation and what I was told at the booth, they said they'd look into and get back to me - then they came back and said they'd re-slab two of them but one they will not. And here's the best part - I had to pay again to have that done despite my requesting in the first place. - Fah-que!

I would be pi**ed about that as well, Ed. Surprised, even after you brought it to their attention, they still made you pay twice.

Just my opinion, but grading by SGC is sounding better and better everyday.

Thanks for the info guys.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by irv

I would be pi**ed about that as well, Ed. Surprised, even after you brought it to their attention, they still made you pay twice.

Just my opinion, but grading by SGC is sounding better and better everyday.

Thanks for the info guys.

you sure about SGC?

[irv]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

you sure about SGC?

No, not 100% but the scales are leaning their way based on what I have gathered the short time I have been here.

[swarmee]

I think he's referring to the fact that the owner of SGC has been accused of systematic shill bidding in the other thread. Before sending your cards there, see if they stay in business...

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I think he's referring to the fact that the owner of SGC has been accused of systematic shill bidding in the other thread. Before sending your cards there, see if they stay in business...

If people don't send in their cards they won't stay in business and even with the new news they are 100X more legit now than PSA has ever been.

[irv]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I think he's referring to the fact that the owner of SGC has been accused of systematic shill bidding in the other thread. Before sending your cards there, see if they stay in business...

Figured as such, but from the reading I did, I seen PSA mentioned the majority of the time compared SGC?

Originally Posted by bnorth

If people don't send in their cards they won't stay in business and even with the new news they are 100X more legit now than PSA has ever been.

Kind of what I gathered as well.

[Edwolf1963]

Originally Posted by irv

I would be pi**ed about that as well, Ed. Surprised, even after you brought it to their attention, they still made you pay twice.

Thanks, I didn't send them back/pay twice - I just let it go and cracked them out. Dismissed their response for the ridiculousness that is was.