Buying Slabbed cards...security...or the contrary?

[CW]

Originally Posted by Jobu

So, does anyone have any solutions for features that TPGs could use in their holders that scam artists wouldn't be able to fake?

I'm not the first person to suggest this, but it would be nice if PSA scanned each card and kept them in either a public or private database for access when authenticity needs to be verified (and maybe it only really needs to be done on cards with a value over $100 or something like that).

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by CW

I'm not the first person to suggest this, but it would be nice if PSA scanned each card and kept them in either a public or private database for access when authenticity needs to be verified (and maybe it only really needs to be done on cards with a value over $100 or something like that).

To me, it seems absolutely ridiculous that they are not doing this now.

My only guess is that they have already dug a hole by not doing it for so long that it would be hard to push publicly. They would have to make the tough call that only photos for cards newly graded or sent for re-holder could be placed in the database. If you let people submit their own photos it would devalue the entire idea. What would be the point of letting people send in doctored photos?

Likely the storage for those photos in the past would have been expensive, however the business plan should have changed many years ago with the advent of cheaper storage.

[1952boyntoncollector]

I would think that think that PSA for the big cards can have email addresses associated with the real owners on CERT numbers so if you see a card for sael you can email the 'owner' to see if its for sale really

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I would think that think that PSA for the big cards can have email addresses associated with the real owners on CERT numbers so if you see a card for sael you can email the 'owner' to see if its for sale really

Not a chance in hell PSA is going to give that information out.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not a chance in hell PSA is going to give that information out.

its not information..its an email address link ..so you don't even know the email...and its up to the seller to respond....like when you contact someone on the registry who has a envelope icon..that you just click and an email goes to the user........

[packs]

As the owner of cards I absolutely would not want PSA or anyone else giving out information that connects me, as an individual, to the card. In your example above you discuss a PSA 8 Mantle. Why would I want to advertise that I own that card? It invites theft.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

As the owner of cards I absolutely would not want PSA or anyone else giving out information that connects me, as an individual, to the card. In your example above you discuss a PSA 8 Mantle. Why would I want to advertise that I own that card? It invites theft.

I don't know who the owners of the #1 set are on the registry unless they put the info themselves...no one is advertising they own any of the cards ...I know if I was going to buy a $400k, it would be nice to know if theres another person out there saying they have the same Cert number and not selling it ..just saying..

Today on ebay I just asked a seller questions about when they submitted the card to PSA to help verify its real and the typical response is 'check the cert number with psa' cert number look up is really no longer the only thing needed anymore due to duplicate fake cards/certs out there..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

its not information..its an email address link ..so you don't even know the email...and its up to the seller to respond....like when you contact someone on the registry who has a envelope icon..that you just click and an email goes to the user........

The people you can contact on the registry WANT to be contacted. Big difference.

[Peter_Spaeth]

People want all these additional steps, yet how many here would complain if they increased their fees to pay for them?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

People want all these additional steps, yet how many here would complain if they increased their fees to pay for them?

I don't think its hard to link an email address to a cert number if its on the registry that info is already there. I would pay 5 dollars more to grade $1000+ dollars cards. Wouldn't it be nice on that recent Goodwin mantle PSA 8 auction to know who last had the cert number associated with the card and if they claim they aren't selling it..