Will ken Griffey jr be the first unanimous hall of famer?

[packs]

Well don't you think someone's credibility comes into question if they don't vote for a player like Griffey? What reasoning is there not to vote for him?

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by packs

Well don't you think someone's credibility comes into question if they don't vote for a player like Griffey? What reasoning is there not to vote for him?

He's first ballot easily, but not unanimous. He was mediocre due to injuries for far too long of a stretch the second half of his career. If Maddux wasn't unanimous then Griffey doesn't stand a chance.

[TAVG]

nope, some won't vote for him simply because they know he will get in.

I know that happened last year with johnson and pedro.

[chaddurbin]

griffey is not even a good case for 100%...mike trout at his current trajectory will be the first 100% no doubter if he keeps this up for another 12-15 years.

[egri]

Originally Posted by packs

Well don't you think someone's credibility comes into question if they don't vote for a player like Griffey? What reasoning is there not to vote for him?

If I was a writer, my reasoning might be that Griffey is going in come hell or high water, and he only needs 75%. Player X is on the borderline and needs every vote he can get. If my ballot is already full, with Griffey on there, I would not have a problem replacing Griffey with Player X. Griffey would still get 90%+ of the vote, and my guy would get some extra help.

[bdk1976]

Originally Posted by egri

If I was a writer, my reasoning might be that Griffey is going in come hell or high water, and he only needs 75%. Player X is on the borderline and needs every vote he can get. If my ballot is already full, with Griffey on there, I would not have a problem replacing Griffey with Player X. Griffey would still get 90%+ of the vote, and my guy would get some extra help.

Have you seen the players on this year's ballot? Pretty sure I saw one writer tweet his and he only picked 9 since he couldn't even find 10 guys worthy of a vote (first time he hasn't picked 10). even a couple of the nine he picked were a stretch and they included PED users including Clemens.

If I had a vote is be checking off even less than 9 this year.


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[almostdone]

Here is a list of all of the players with the first time ballot. I don't see anyone, besides Griffey, who would be a potential HOFer with the eventual possibility of Trevor Hoffman but even he isn't a given and especially in his first year. I think with the last few years of multiple players inducted this year will be a bit more sparse.
Drew

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by almostdone

Here is a list of all of the players with the first time ballot. I don't see anyone, besides Griffey, who would be a potential HOFer with the eventual possibility of Trevor Hoffman but even he isn't a given and especially in his first year. I think with the last few years of multiple players inducted this year will be a bit more sparse.
Drew

Exactly and the people who do deserve to be in the hall are PED users . So this means somebody will have to just not vote for anybody .

[packs]

Piazza and Raines will probably be his only competition for votes.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by packs

Piazza and Raines will probably be his only competition for votes.

No way....Having said that, he will not be elected 100%. But I bet his percentage ends up being in the top 5% of HOFers of all time...

[steve B]

Originally Posted by egri

If I was a writer, my reasoning might be that Griffey is going in come hell or high water, and he only needs 75%. Player X is on the borderline and needs every vote he can get. If my ballot is already full, with Griffey on there, I would not have a problem replacing Griffey with Player X. Griffey would still get 90%+ of the vote, and my guy would get some extra help.

I was going to mention the same thing. There have been a few admittedly marginal players who might have squeaked in in their last eligible year but were dropped because of a very solid group somewhere in between. The one that comes to mind right off is Dwight Evans. Not a first ballot guy for sure, but someone who might just make it. Health kept him just short of 400 HR which was almost a certain thing when he played. Combined with his fielding he might have made it.

From Wikipedia.
" Evans was dropped from the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot when he did not receive the minimum five percent of votes in his third year of eligibility. Evans received 5.9% in 1997, 10.4% in 1998, and 3.6% in 1999. Evans' low vote total in 1999 is attributed to the appearance of future Hall of Fame players Nolan Ryan, George Brett, Robin Yount, and Carlton Fisk on the 1999 ballot. Based on his win shares metric, baseball statistician Bill James has argued that Evans is a worthy candidate for induction.[3]


Steve B