Off Topic: Rangers vs Jays

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

Now there's a real intelligent response....

Actually it is, and since you like stats here are a few for you:

Yankees Team Pitching Stats (out of 30 teams)

2015 - ranked 17th
2014 - 18th
2013 - 18th
2012 - 12th
2011 - 11th
2010 - 15th
2009 - 12th
2008 - 15th
2007 - 17th

seems middle of the road to me - thus "average"

don't believe it, go check it:

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...ys=&extended=0

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Actually it is, and since you like stats here are a few for you:

Yankees Team Pitching Stats (out of 30 teams)

2015 - ranked 17th
2014 - 18th
2013 - 18th
2012 - 12th
2011 - 11th
2010 - 15th
2009 - 12th
2008 - 15th
2007 - 17th

seems middle of the road to me - thus "average"

don't believe it, go check it:

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...ys=&extended=0

Once again.....who cares about the Yankees mediocre pitching??? No kidding!!! God....get a life.....

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

Once again.....who cares about the Yankees mediocre pitching??? No kidding!!! God....get a life.....

You were the genius who said Batista only hit average pitching and didn't hit top pitching.

1. Pretty sure all the players playing today are facing the same pitchers.
2. Don't most hitters hit average pitching better then top pitching?
3. Your an idiot. (for proof see Leon's post)

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

You were the genius who said Batista only hit average pitching and didn't hit top pitching.

1. Pretty sure all the players playing today are facing the same pitchers.
2. Don't most hitters hit average pitching better then top pitching?
3. Your an idiot. (for proof see Leon's post)

I teach and previously coached professional baseball (as well as having played it at a higher level than you will ever know) and you're calling me an idiot??? Let me tell you something imbecile....what I FORGOT about this game you will NEVER know in three lifetimes.....now go back into your coma.....

[Stampsfan]

OK, maybe I'm really a bitter Expos fan. As a Canadian, and a Expos fan, I have zero passion for the Blue Jays. But the bandwagon jumping here is enough to make me puke. Where were these people three years ago, or more. Most "fans" couldn't name 5 Blue Jays before 60 days ago.

And yeah, Bautista... he always has too much to say. Remember his rant when Reyes was traded. Ugh.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

OK, maybe I'm really a bitter Expos fan. As a Canadian, and a Expos fan, I have zero passion for the Blue Jays. But the bandwagon jumping here is enough to make me puke. Where were these people three years ago, or more. Most "fans" couldn't name 5 Blue Jays before 60 days ago.

And yeah, Bautista... he always has too much to say. Remember his rant when Reyes was traded. Ugh.

Fortunately people like you are in the minority in this country. Oh and ABBS (anybody but the Stampeders)!!!

p.s. Jays fan from day #1.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

I teach and previously coached professional baseball (as well as having played it at a higher level than you will ever know) and you're calling me an idiot??? Let me tell you something imbecile....what I FORGOT about this game you will NEVER know in three lifetimes.....now go back into your coma.....

hell of a resume, surprised the Yankees have not hired you to fix their average pitching with those credentials......now go home and get your shine box!

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

hell of a resume, surprised the Yankees have not hired you to fix their average pitching with those credentials......now go home and get your shine box!

What is your problem??? Are you just a typical Yankee hater that is so bitter because the organization has 27 championship trophies in their showcase? Oh, and to add one more insult to injury since Yankee haters are always bashing AROD on his steroid use... who did Bautista purchase his PEDs from when he "magically" went from hitting 16 home runs to 54 the following season??? You are pathetic...to say the least!

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Actually it is, and since you like stats here are a few for you:

Yankees Team Pitching Stats (out of 30 teams)

2015 - ranked 17th
2014 - 18th
2013 - 18th
2012 - 12th
2011 - 11th
2010 - 15th
2009 - 12th
2008 - 15th
2007 - 17th

seems middle of the road to me - thus "average"

don't believe it, go check it:

http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.js...ys=&extended=0

No doubt or arguing that Yankee's pitching has been average, Paul is correct, but stats can be misleading. For one, NL Teams dominate the top of the rankings (due to the AL DH) - but if you look at the AL stats only it still paints a similar picture. However, the Yankees were top 5 in AL pitching for three of four of those years listed.

More importantly, during that span 1 WS Championship, 2 ALCS appearances, and six playoff appearances. Now that is nothing to brag too much about, but I can think of a few teams that would trade "above average" pitching for those results. The Dodgers have arguably the best two pitchers in baseball, and they are still trying to figure out how to get out of the first round of the playoffs.

[Jim F]

Last couple paragraphs from an NBC Sports article this morning.


Pressure + Triumph = Exuberance. If you find that equation troublesome or the concept behind it difficult to grok, you have challenges far beyond trying to get major league hitters out. If you think that some Kafkaesque, self-contradictory, thought and emotion-policing set of “game-respecting” rituals take precedence over it, you’re missing the very point of sports, entertainment and, maybe, even the concept of joy itself.

If such a set of beliefs is required for you to Respect The Game, find a different game. The rest of us will be over here marveling at one of the most exciting baseball moments we’ve ever experienced.

[mattsey9]

I agree with this. My only objection is that people who use the word grok should get beaned with a fastball...

Originally Posted by Jim F

Last couple paragraphs from an NBC Sports article this morning.


Pressure + Triumph = Exuberance. If you find that equation troublesome or the concept behind it difficult to grok, you have challenges far beyond trying to get major league hitters out. If you think that some Kafkaesque, self-contradictory, thought and emotion-policing set of “game-respecting” rituals take precedence over it, you’re missing the very point of sports, entertainment and, maybe, even the concept of joy itself.

If such a set of beliefs is required for you to Respect The Game, find a different game. The rest of us will be over here marveling at one of the most exciting baseball moments we’ve ever experienced.