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View Poll Results: What should a dealer do if this card comes raw to your table at a show?
Feign ignorance and buy the card for under $100 36 19.05%
Educate the seller and offer a minor discount off of a recent auction sale? 83 43.92%
Inform the seller about some recent comparable sales and suggest an auction house 58 30.69%
Tell him its garbage and tell him to go away 12 6.35%
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Old 10-05-2015, 06:55 PM
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Default this card.....

is part of the missing puzzle of sheet structure.....a mini "work of art" and damn expensive!.....rightfully so.....

I would be interested in this card.....

definitely would let the guy know what he had, then let the games begin
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:11 PM
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How long did the quality control guy keep his job?
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How long did the quality control guy keep his job?

That's a good darn question!
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:24 PM
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Golden Rule.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:16 PM
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In todays world someone with average intelligence can find out most things on the internet. That being said, I am not a dealer so I don't have an answer.
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Old 10-06-2015, 06:52 AM
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In todays world someone with average intelligence can find out most things on the internet.
This. I’m not sure why it’s a buyer's responsibility to educate the seller.

If you were in the market for a new vehicle and you go down to the local Chevy dealership and pick out a new car, is it the salesman’s responsibility to tell you that the Chevy dealership in the next town over is having their Pre-Labor Day Sale and has the exact same model $2K less, or is it your (the buyer) responsibility to do your homework first?

Or, as a buyer, if you saw the card in a dealer's showcase marked $50, is it the your responsibility to educate the seller?

Whether you are a buyer or seller, it is your responsibility to educate yourself as to what you are buying or selling.

That said, I wouldn't lie to or mislead the buyer or seller. In the example posted here, if I were the dealer, I would ask the buyer what they want for the card. It is their card, isn't it their responsibility to know?

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In todays world someone with average intelligence can find out most things on the internet. That being said, I am not a dealer so I don't have an answer.
Yes, but one should have a good feel for the source. Trustworthy? Reliable? Motive? There's lots or information and misinformation out there for various reasons. Some of it is just plain wrong.

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Great topic.

I've talked about this issues with other collectors many times.

I always love hearing responses from dealers that couch their answers with some leeway to take advantage of the ignorant person.

I've always wanted to have someone walk around shows and see what offers dealers would be made on an expensive card by someone claiming they have no idea if it's worth anything at all.

I'm also sure all the dealers wouldn't mind their if their inevitable low-ball offers to self-admitted, uninformed, non-collectors were posted on the internet.
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Old 10-06-2015, 09:52 AM
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Since the card being presented by the seller is professionally graded then he should be some what educated on cards and values. Not much of a break for the seller IMO. If he presented it raw in a group of others maybe a different story. My point being people buying graded cards or submitting cards to be graded should be more educated as opposed to someone showing up with a shoe box of cards. So let's hear it what did the OP do?
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I think that it depends on who the buyer is. Earlier in this thread there was nice story about a candy shop owner and a child. In that case, you would be a complete scum to take advantage of someone who doesn't know about value and also doesn't have the resources to establish value.

If I was approached by an adult with the card in this thread, I would ask what they want for it? I don't think that the dealer has an obligation to educate the person selling the card on the value. It is the seller of the cards obligation to establish the value of the card on their own. If he asked me what it is worth, that is a different story. To low ball him at that point would be a dishonest thing to do.

I once sold a Brooklyn Dodgers item to a dealer at a show. I showed the piece to him and he offered me $500. I was thrilled to get that amount. I watched him later sell it for $1,000. I was happy for both of us. Should I have expected him to offer me the $1,000 in the first place?

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He who has the Gold makes the rules?
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He who has the Gold makes the rules?
Sure, ok.

I was thinking more along the lines of - if I had that card and brought it in to a dealer, how would I want to be treated by the dealer?
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