Gehrig question....

[steve B]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Interesting read from 2012. My thoughts are that if they made those mistakes back then and it appears they did, that they certainly would have learned from that and then in the future purchased from AHs with reputable provenance history. I am not naive but a few years have passed since this story broke and if the FBI is sniffing at your door then I would think that would be incentive enough to change your buying practices.

Thanks for the article. Mike

To answer the original question - Possibly. If there was enough technical data on the known genuine Ruth jerseys (And pants) It should be possible to narrow it down some. It's unlikely the identical winding of thread and weave of cloth was used for his entire career. Pinstripe width probably varied too.

The Gehrig bit as someone else said looks like maybe socks. If you searched auction house listings for the last several years there was probably a pair sold somewhere. Possibly a warmup sweater, which should be another easy item to find in past sales. Assuming of course they're actually game used by Gehrig. Add the possibility of a random set of Yankees socks and the possibilities expand a bit.


That's also right about when the card companies changed the wording on ALL "game used" cards.

Note the Panini wording says "The enclosed game used material is guaranteed by Panini America Inc."
Nowhere in that does it actually say the material was game used by either Gehrig or Ruth. Just that it's game used. So it could be bits of Ruth or Gehrig uniform parts, OR parts of random Yankee uniforms from the 20's-30's Or they could be parts of uniforms worn in the Panini Intramural softball league.

I don't have one handy, but Topps language specifically states they don't guarantee the inclosed object to be from any particular year or event. And they don't call them "Game used" but "relics" =So theirs could be from coaching jerseys, or even just a Jersey worn during the signing of the autographed cards or stickers.


As to not believing a multimillion dollar company would do something that they'd get into big trouble for......You seriously believe that?
Enron
BP/Halliburton
Upper Deck - reprinted their own cards. Faked their own cards. Got caught at least twice - practically no repercussions at all
Mastronet
Delorean - company CEO tried dealing drugs to keep the company afloat.

There probably isn't room for them all.


Steve B