2001 Albert Pujols bowman chrome

[yanksfan09]

I think it should hold its value. The only thing that would give me hesitation is the possibility of a PED scandal with his name attached to it at some point in the future. Guess that comes with the territory of any player playing today though. I know Jack Clark accused Pujols of using but I've never seen any evidence of it and am not saying I think he used, I have no idea. There's so many players from this era that we just will never know for sure on. I would think the Pujols RC's should be safe as long as no evidence ever came out against him. Just my opinion. Obviously Mcgwire, Bonds, and ARod cards got hammered when evidence came out.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

I think it should hold its value. The only thing that would give me hesitation is the possibility of a PED scandal with his name attached to it at some point in the future. Guess that comes with the territory of any player playing today though. I know Jack Clark accused Pujols of using but I've never seen any evidence of it and am not saying I think he used, I have no idea. There's so many players from this era that we just will never know for sure on. I would think the Pujols RC's should be safe as long as no evidence ever came out against him. Just my opinion. Obviously Mcgwire, Bonds, and ARod cards got hammered when evidence came out.

Jack Clark's accusation was allegedly based upon what Pujols' trainer told him--why would the trainer or Clark lie in this respect? Clark only backed down when Pujols threatened a law suit, which surely would have been ill-advised from Albert's standpoint, since the trainer could be compelled to testify, and if he took the 5th, granted immunity (I hardly think that he would be willing to go to jail a la Bonds' guy). Also, Pujols is a public figure, which from a legal standpoint means a showing of malice on Clark's part would have to have been made. Pujols was bluffing, and Clark should have called him on it. Plus, I've seen Albert in a tight-fitting T-shirt, and he's as big as Canseco ever was.

Just my 2 cents,

Larry A. Smith

[TAVG]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

I think it should hold its value. The only thing that would give me hesitation is the possibility of a PED scandal with his name attached to it at some point in the future. Guess that comes with the territory of any player playing today though. I know Jack Clark accused Pujols of using but I've never seen any evidence of it and am not saying I think he used, I have no idea. There's so many players from this era that we just will never know for sure on. I would think the Pujols RC's should be safe as long as no evidence ever came out against him. Just my opinion. Obviously Mcgwire, Bonds, and ARod cards got hammered when evidence came out.

being a cardinals fan, I always suspected pujols of PED's. He was built a lot like the guys who were caught, and the numbers were just really high.

but who knows

[ALR-bishop]

I have no idea if Pujols used or uses PEDs, but I would not have gone public with allegations that he did based on what someone else told me, especially if that person had not gone public with the allegation. Clark may have been advised not to call Pujol's bluff without some available corroboration

[Ryan1125]

Every time I see one for sale, it's expensive! From what I understand it pretty much started the whole "Bowman Chrome Rookie Auto" craze that is still around today... The player's 1st Bowman Chrome autograph is their most prized card for collectors. I'm also pretty sure there were only /499 available...

I also think Pujols did steroids IMHO but he appears to have slipped by unscathed with little to no effect on his card values!

[Coninefan]

There are only 350 or so in circulation. Not all of them were redeemed.

It's an iconic card. A lot of them have been altered, either by trimming (it was notoriously off-centered) or by wiping the auto clean and resigning it. There are also six 5/500 autos out there. Who knows which one is actually real.

If you ever decide to buy, do some research first. Look up "2001 Pujols autograph" on ebay. See how nearly all of them signed in '01 are slanted heavily to the right? Fakes are very loopy. Most were signed years later around 2005, either by Pujols or Kevin Burge.

http://www.freedomcardboard.com/foru...e-Rc-MUST-READ

[ls7plus]

"Only" is a very relative term, I suppose. Either 350 or 499 would not even be considered scarce in the context of prewar. From the standpoint of all-time icons, it is grossly overpriced. Examples: 1939 V351 Worldwide Gum Ted Williams rookie, with a total of just 3 graded by both PSA and SGC--recent sale of one example in SGC Ex (to me) at $4,050; 1907 Dietsche Fielding Pose Cobb rookie--with I believe a total of 8 graded by both PSA and SGC (its been some months since I last checked)--recent sale of one in PSA Ex, according to one dealer with a lesser-graded example at the National for $8,000. IMHO, this card is either likely to be static or fall in value in the long run, while examples similar to and including the above are likely to appreciate at a significant to substantial rate.

Just my two cents worth, and happy collecting,

Larry

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

"Only" is a very relative term, I suppose. Either 350 or 499 would not even be considered scarce in the context of prewar. From the standpoint of all-time icons, it is grossly overpriced. Examples: 1939 V351 Worldwide Gum Ted Williams rookie, with a total of just 3 graded by both PSA and SGC--recent sale of one example in SGC Ex (to me) at $4,050; 1907 Dietsche Fielding Pose Cobb rookie--with I believe a total of 8 graded by both PSA and SGC (its been some months since I last checked)--recent sale of one in PSA Ex, according to one dealer with a lesser-graded example at the National for $8,000. IMHO, this card is either likely to be static or fall in value in the long run, while examples similar to and including the above are likely to appreciate at a significant to substantial rate.

Just my two cents worth, and happy collecting,

Larry

Sound logic there Larry! However your assumption presumes collectors will act logically

Sometimes, things are too rare for their own good. I agree with your sentiment and value the true rarities a great deal myself!

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by Coninefan

There are only 350 or so in circulation. Not all of them were redeemed.

It's an iconic card. A lot of them have been altered, either by trimming (it was notoriously off-centered) or by wiping the auto clean and resigning it. There are also six 5/500 autos out there. Who knows which one is actually real.

If you ever decide to buy, do some research first. Look up "2001 Pujols autograph" on ebay. See how nearly all of them signed in '01 are slanted heavily to the right? Fakes are very loopy. Most were signed years later around 2005, either by Pujols or Kevin Burge.

http://www.freedomcardboard.com/foru...e-Rc-MUST-READ

Hadn't heard about all these rumors. I don't see myself ever pursuing the card, but it sounds like people really need to do their homework on it if considering one...