Bill Mastro's upcoming sentencing

[calvindog]

Peter, you've contrarianed yourself into a pretzel.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Peter, you've contrarianed yourself into a pretzel.

Well you set an example for me, Jeff.

Edited to add

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well you set an example for me, Jeff.

Yeah, I sure have. Keep rubbing your temples and explaining how you're not affected by Mastro's massive fraud. Or maybe you just don't want to write a letter to the court because you helped a friend shill some of his Mastro lots?

Edited to add

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yeah, I sure have. Keep rubbing your temples and explaining how you're not affected by Mastro's massive fraud. Or maybe you just don't want to write a letter to the court because you helped a friend shill some of his Mastro lots?

Edited to add

I never claimed to be unaffected, you are mischaracterizing my words. I said I am not sure enough that I have been affected to write the equivalent of a victim impact statement. There is a difference, no?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I never claimed to be unaffected, you are mischaracterizing my words. I said I am not sure enough that I have been affected to write the equivalent of a victim impact statement. There is a difference, no?

The letter to the court is not a victim impact statement -- it is a letter discussing Mastro's character and the impact he has had on the hobby. It is not a victim impact statement.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

The letter to the court is not a victim impact statement -- it is a letter discussing Mastro's character and the impact he has had on the hobby. It is not a victim impact statement.

The ones I read seemed to be, for the most part anyhow. So I guess that is how I had thought about them. I had not thought the Court would be interested in more general observations about the hobby.

[chaddurbin]

i didn't get a dinner or a gift, and i bidded and won a few 5figs cards in mastro throughout the years...gonna cover my bases and write that letter. dude was always too upbeat for my taste, kinda creepy.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

i didn't get a dinner or a gift, and i bidded and won a few 5figs cards in mastro throughout the years...gonna cover my bases and write that letter. dude was always too upbeat for my taste, kinda creepy.

What if he sends you an Andre Ethier rookie card in PSA 7? Can you be bought?

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by calvindog

What if he sends you a Andre Ethier rookie card in PSA 7? Can you be bought?

probably a smart thing to stay away from the mastro/psa or allen/psa combo at this point.

[ullmandds]

Well...it seems to me that you have to start somewhere...and the lighter the sentence Mastro gets...the lighter the sentence/fine the card doctor will get when he/she is brought to justice.

But the card doctor will never get in trouble...for what they do in and of itself is not against the law...but providing a venue to distribute these known...altered cards is!