PWCC & eBay - help us improve the hobby

Peter_Spaeth · #1 06-10-2015, 10:04 AM

From a 2011 auction listing.

"Sales Tax 8.25% charged to some California buyers. We encourage CA buyers to contact us before bidding.

brent@pwccauctions.com 805-440-8903"

I guess you can draw whatever inference you want.

calvindog · #2 06-10-2015, 10:20 AM

Why would it be charged at all if PWCC was paying it?

Peter_Spaeth · #3 06-10-2015, 10:27 AM

I assume, if PWCC is to be believed, it would only pick up the tab where the buyer paid by check. If the buyer paid by paypal, sales tax was added automatically.

Still, assuming 10 percent or more of PWCC's business was California (based on population that seems certain), and assuming a reasonable percentage of people took advantage of the offer (who would want to pay an extra 8.25 percent?), that's a lot of money for a business with razor-thin margins to be paying out of pocket.

pokerplyr80 · #4 06-10-2015, 06:29 PM

I had just noticed the conversation was pretty one sided and thought I'd say something positive. I thought it was harsh to call him a tax fraud when most of us buy online or pay cash at shows to avoid paying sales tax. If he's saying he paid the sales tax for CA customers who paid with checks, I'm sure he would have taken a loss on those transactions as the rate out here is 8-9% depending on the county.

Brent certainly doesn't need me to speak for him and seems to have provided a reasonable explanation for most negative comments. Whether or not everything he said is true is up for debate, but I have no reason to doubt him from my limited personal experience dealing with him.

swarmee · #5 06-10-2015, 06:50 PM

I thought his shrugging off of revealing even a seller ID number was disappointing, and it took about 20 guys on the CU/PSA board for him to decide it was a bad idea to continue selling aftermarket (by about 50 years) Christmas rack packs.
Some also set off my BS alarms, but he did actively respond to most of the feedback (not so much the overly bright scans pictured here).

Leon · #6 06-10-2015, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I had just noticed the conversation was pretty one sided and thought I'd say something positive. I thought it was harsh to call him a tax fraud when most of us buy online or pay cash at shows to avoid paying sales tax. If he's saying he paid the sales tax for CA customers who paid with checks, I'm sure he would have taken a loss on those transactions as the rate out here is 8-9% depending on the county.

Brent certainly doesn't need me to speak for him and seems to have provided a reasonable explanation for most negative comments. Whether or not everything he said is true is up for debate, but I have no reason to doubt him from my limited personal experience dealing with him.

We have rules about giving opinions. At the top of every page it says if you give an opinion your full name needs to be in your post... so your name is Je.sse Arn.ot (nothing personal, it's the rule) thanks

Peter_Spaeth · #7 06-10-2015, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I had just noticed the conversation was pretty one sided and thought I'd say something positive. I thought it was harsh to call him a tax fraud when most of us buy online or pay cash at shows to avoid paying sales tax. If he's saying he paid the sales tax for CA customers who paid with checks, I'm sure he would have taken a loss on those transactions as the rate out here is 8-9% depending on the county.

Brent certainly doesn't need me to speak for him and seems to have provided a reasonable explanation for most negative comments. Whether or not everything he said is true is up for debate, but I have no reason to doubt him from my limited personal experience dealing with him.

We all have our opinions but I do have reason to doubt him given that he said he started the sales tax avoidance program in 2013 in contemplation of moving to Oregon but I am looking at an ebay invoice from 2011 instructing the California winner how to avoid sales tax. And an auction from 2011 asking California bidders to contact him regarding sales tax. I also find it hard to believe, although it's just an opinion, that he took a loss on that many transactions rather than just collect the sales tax. My two cents, on which I will pay sales tax.

And he never responded to the fact that he had claimed that a post on Net 54 was the first time anyone had ever raised a question about his scans, when just a couple of months before he had posted at length on CU about the same topic. To me, once you burn credibility, I have a hard time believing anything else you might say. Just my opinion.

pokerplyr80 · #8 06-10-2015, 08:42 PM

Sorry Leon I thought my full name was on my profile. I have no problem with anyone knowing my real name in here. I just made the change. Is that sufficient or do I need to include it into every post that includes an opinion?

Leon · #9 06-10-2015, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Sorry Leon I thought my full name was on my profile. I have no problem with anyone knowing my real name in here. I just made the change. Is that sufficient or do I need to include it into every post that includes an opinion?

That is very good. Thank you.

pokerplyr80 · #10 06-10-2015, 09:02 PM

And he never responded to the fact that he had claimed that a post on Net 54 was the first time anyone had ever raised a question about his scans, when just a couple of months before he had posted at length on CU about the same topic. To me, once you burn credibility, I have a hard time believing anything else you might say. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I probably shouldn't have gotten involved in this one since it's obvious others on the forum have some strong opinions and I'm not even aware of all the facts in dispute. I was just trying to say there could be a reasonable explanation and not an attempt to defraud. As for the scans I took his response as that he hadn't had customers complain about them or return cards because they were misleading. Not that he hadn't answered someone in a forum about it.

Peter_Spaeth · #11 06-10-2015, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

And he never responded to the fact that he had claimed that a post on Net 54 was the first time anyone had ever raised a question about his scans, when just a couple of months before he had posted at length on CU about the same topic. To me, once you burn credibility, I have a hard time believing anything else you might say. Just my opinion.

I probably shouldn't have gotten involved in this one since it's obvious others on the forum have some strong opinions and I'm not even aware of all the facts in dispute. I was just trying to say there could be a reasonable explanation and not an attempt to defraud. As for the scans I took his response as that he hadn't had customers complain about them or return cards because they were misleading. Not that he hadn't answered someone in a forum about it.[/QUOTE]

No, you're wrong, you need to go back and read the thread I referenced in a prior post, if you are interested.

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