OT - Patriots Deflate Report

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by kcohen

Than who DID decided on the 4 games? Maybe I missed something.

Troy Vincent handles suspensions.

[vintagetoppsguy]

This thread summarized:
Patriots are CHEATERS
Brady suspended
Suspension upheld
Justice served
End of story

[Peter_Spaeth]

My summary: the NFL does not care about real issues like head trauma to players, or domestic violence. Ray Rice two games for beating the crap out of his fiancée, Tom Brady four for "probably" knowing about taking a little air out of a football. End of story.

[packs]

Man it drives me nuts that people still don't think he knew about the footballs.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It drives me nuts that Goodell denies the connection between football and brain injuries despite overwhelming evidence.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

My summary: the NFL does not care about real issues like head trauma to players, or domestic violence. Ray Rice two games for beating the crap out of his fiancée, Tom Brady four for "probably" knowing about taking a little air out of a football. End of story.

It drives me nuts that these players make millions of dollars in a very rough sport and then are so stupid/worthless that they try to sue over head trauma.

Also how do you justify comparing Brady and the Cheatriots ruining the integrity of the game with some players off the field actions. Yes they done horrible things but in no way did it affect the outcome of a single game.

[Econteachert205]

This is a power struggle between Kraft and goodell. Both are vipers.

[Peter_Spaeth]

What is this, ancient Rome where we sacrifice people for entertainment value? The NFL could do much much more to protect its players, but chooses to play ostrich. And because they deny the risks many of the young men who take them are certainly not fully informed.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If a lineman gets away with a hold that springs a back for the winning touchdown, did that "cheating" affect the integrity of the game?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What is this, ancient Rome where we sacrifice people for entertainment value? The NFL could do much much more to protect its players, but chooses to play ostrich. And because they deny the risks many of the young men who take them are certainly not fully informed.

LOL Young men not being fully informed. Peter this isn't 1815. They choose to do what they do for the large pay checks and ignore anything bad. It is the American way to blame everything on someone/something else. Would hate for anyone to actually take responsibility for their own actions.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

LOL Young men not being fully informed. Peter this isn't 1815. They choose to do what they do for the large pay checks and ignore anything bad. It is the American way to blame everything on someone/something else. Would hate for anyone to actually take responsibility for their own actions.

I don't agree that they are fully informed. Their employer is denying it. Before that their colleges denied it. The team doctors are telling them it's ok to go back into the game with a concussion. Where's the full disclosure?

And all that aside, why won't the NFL do more to protect its players, whether or not they understand the risks?

It isn't 1815 Ben, it's ancient Rome and the arena. But let's keep all that hush hush and worry about a football underinflated by 1 PSI.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What is this, ancient Rome where we sacrifice people for entertainment value?

Yes, I think NFL football equates almost exactly to the gladiator battles in ancient Rome in that it serves the same purpose for the spectators. The main difference is that the deaths and dismemberments were socially acceptable for ancient Romans. Still, NFL players are committing the violence that we aren't allowed to, and that fills some void that many of us need filled. We would probably enjoy it more if we used prison inmates, kept them in cages beneath the stadiums and simply drug them off to the hospital when injured. Like gladiators, we would still have our favorites and they would be given special meals and women if they performed well.

But none of that has anything to do with Deflate-gate. As Jeff mentioned in a main board thread, follow the money to get your answers.

[Dan Carson]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

My summary: the NFL does not care about real issues like head trauma to players, or domestic violence. Ray Rice two games for beating the crap out of his fiancée, Tom Brady four for "probably" knowing about taking a little air out of a football. End of story.

Are you suggesting Tom Brady beat the tar out of his wife??

[nolemmings]

Can't wait-- the NFL v. Patriots/Brady in two federal court cases, even though one will likely be stayed or dismissed. Arrogance vs. Incompetence. Buh, buh, buh, buh---I'm lovin' it!

Hope it goes the proverbial 15 rounds with each side throwing haymakers. Air out that dirty laundry --spill those dirty little secrets. Could prove more entertaining than the Republican debates.

[packs]

No offense to football players but if by now you aren't informed enough about concussions and football related injuries it is because you are either willfully ignorant or there is no reaching you. So I have trouble finding sympathy for those that later experience the side effects of football. Of course I have nothing but sympathy for their families and the results of their careers. But I don't support the lawsuits.

[Peter_Spaeth]

So you expect some kid to stand up to a team doctor and coach telling him it's ok to go back in? Or to form a judgment that even though the league is saying there is no evidence, there really is? I don't think that's realistic.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by packs

No offense to football players but if by now you aren't informed enough about concussions and football related injuries it is because you are either willfully ignorant or there is no reaching you. So I have trouble finding sympathy for those that later experience the side effects of football. Of course I have nothing but sympathy for their families and the results of their careers. But I don't support the lawsuits.

Why not? The NCAA knew about concussions and had a recommended protocol for dealing with them - in the 1930s. The NFL ignored all that, lied about the damage concussions do, hired a non-brain expert to be their concussions guy, and so on. And, even after implementing a protocol, you still got nonsense like the Colt McCoy incident.

I'm not saying I'd support a lawsuit filed by a current player but somebody who retired 10-20 years ago? Sure thing.