Help! (Please) looking for my great grand father on T-206!

[Joshwesley]

Hi......a really nice board member responded to my wanted add and had a duplicate card from his t-209 set.
It's a beauty... Graded a 3.
I can't wait to get it. I'm really thankful. The ultimate piece for me!

[Joshwesley]

Now that I'm hooked on t-206 and am gaining a collection.....

I'm wondering, is there anyway to track my GGP's career?

Meaning: I don't suppose there is a site that could show who he faced while playing with the Naps in 1909...

Did he face Cobb? Did he sit him down?
Etc etc...

Possible?

I've been googling but figured this is my best shot.

Thanks!

[btcarfagno]

I do not think that either Baseball Reference or Retrosheet go back to 1909 for individual game box scores....only about 1914 or so. They are the "usual suspects" for this sort of thing. Perhaps you can contact the Baseball Hall Of Fame with your research request. There may be other sources as well but I am just not aware of them.

Tom C

[bigtrain]

I think a road trip to Cleveland might be in
order. I would check with the Cleveland public
Library or the Plain Dealer to see if they have
accessible archives.

[Joshwesley]

Cleveland public library it is!!

I'll give it a shot.

Thanks guys!

[Kawika]

Here is your ggf's ML pitching line from Baseball-Reference.com. He appeared in four games, starting one and in relief in the others.


I was able to find box scores in the New York Times for the four games he played. They are not pitch-by-pitch or batter-by-batter accounts by any stretch but you can still infer a lot. He didn't get the chance to "sit down" Cobb but he faced the likes of Tris Speaker and Home Run Baker and that is sure something. He had some solid outings. Why he didn't stick is a mystery for someone else to solve.

His first appearance was on July 30, 1909, pitching two innings in relief of Carl Sitton against the A's in Philadelphia. The NY Times mis-spelled his name in the box score.


He made his only major league start, a 6-2 defeat, on August 4 against the Senators in the second game of a doubleheader in Washington. Walter Johnson had outdueled Addie Joss 1-0 in the first game. Looks like Senator base runners had a field day with the battery of Great-Grand Dad and Nig Clarke.



Next appearance was August 12 against the Red Sox in Boston where your ggf came in relief of the mighty Cy Young and pitched four scoreless innings.


His final ML appearance was a home game against the A's eight days later on August 20. Looks like he inherited a couple of runners from Sitton in the first and didn't get out of the inning that easy but otherwise pitched solidly the rest of the way. Cleveland being held scoreless didn't help the cause. He had his only big league hit that day, a single off Jack Coombs.

[Joshwesley]

Incredible.

Thank you so much! Those are priceless to me.
That's some awesome work.

Thanks again.


Edit: supposedly he hurt his shoulder pretty bad and then just moved back to louisiana and became a farmer.

My grandad said he really rubbed elbows and played with some future stars while in the southern leagues (Raleigh and Shreveport)....

Really cool.

[DaClyde]

The Dallas Morning News had great coverage of the Texas League in 1908, including several full play-by-play accounts of games. I can probably reconstruct his 1908 season and get you snapshots of the newspaper pages from GenealogyBank tomorrow. I'll work out a way to get them to you.

[Joshwesley]

That's incredibly generous/thoughtful of you. Don't put too many demands on your time. I'll be thankful for whatever/whenever!