How Rare is the 1933 Goudey Napoleon Lajoie?

[parkerj33]

all, here is an archived thread from 2007, referring to the heitman claim:

Posted By: William Heitman

Back in the '50's, and even earlier than that, there was a group of hobby veterans who, in their spare time, liked to redo older sets of cards. They would make changes--like completely renumbering the 1933 Goudey set, or changing backs. They felt that these changes would make it obvious that these were reprints. Boy, were they wrong. Trouble is that they (many were affiliated to card producers, i.e. Topps, Bowman, Gum, Inc., etc) had access to vintage presses, inks and paper, and the ones they did turned out really good. I saw many of these when I was young and listened to my father laugh at just how good they were and just how stupid anyone would be to believe them to be real. "Strip" cards are not called that because they were printed on strips(which they very obviously were), but because they were originally sold to the public the very same way they were printed. Printing cards on sheets with multiple rows of cards was an advent of the '30's, the very same time that hobby veterans started to talk to each other and out of which grew this unusual idea of redoing old sets of cards. I've seen some of these cards surface over the years and cause a real stir in the hobby. A lot of it is wishful thinking. Unfortunately, a lot of the stir is the product of just plain lack of knowledge. The preferred method of storing cards that were collected until plastic sheets came along was in neat little rows in cardboard boxes(Velveta boxes were especially good). With that method of storage, after just a few years a fake looks just about as aged as a card that is ninety years old that was stored that same way. Reprints have been around for years and years. They weren't originally done to fool anyone, but, unfortunately, they do.

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[parkerj33]

Ted, I think George Moll could very well have been with the group that Bill H is referring to, or at least connected to them, to get his custom 106 made for him.

[Rich Klein]

The story I heard is that Woody Gelman created the Durocher card which would make sense since Don Lepore of Card Collectors Company was the one who found said card.

[toppcat]

Has anyone ever checked the Library of Congress to see if the Durocher was copyrighted along with the other 1933 cards?

The Woody Gelman connection is interesting-he is one of the few guys that would have been able to get a high quality card printed up.

[tedzan]

My recollection of George Moll's collection having a #106 Durocher (Post#43) can be verified by Rob Lifson.

Rob acquired Moll's collection circa 1985.


TED Z
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