Fred Payne Comparison

[Greenmonster]

Sean...Great research....thank you for taking the time to investigate....I was wondering about his middle initial on the postcard too, he is identified as Fred T. Payne on the postcard back, this may have caused him to sign the same.

[milkit1]

no sweat!
I hadnt noticed that on the postcard that it lists him that way. Wouldlove to see some other opinions on this. Its great studying these rare deadball era signatures

[HexsHeroes]

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One from a 3x5
One from a pm 1945 GPC
Final one the signature detail from a 1948 Wingler questionnaire.

[ATP]

I will be the first one to say that it's not the same signer. The F is pretty much the same, all through the years, especially the draft card, but not the postcard. The postcard example has completely different formation and would only be a few years separated.

[Greenmonster]

Hi Jeff...I don't think it's that obvious, there are differences but I'm noticing a number of similarities between all of the samples:

The hook on the cross of the "F"

Slant and openness of the "r"

Open "e" in the first name

"a" is consistently under the loop of the "P"

open humped "n"

closed "e" in the last name.

Thoughts?

[ATP]

Sorry, my opinion, but even the letters you pointed out look different to my eye. I don't see similarities at all.

[ATP]

Just look at where the P is started in each, that should be enough.