Another Antiques Roadshow Tobacco collection.. Wow!

[cfc1909]

very nice collection and thank you so much for sharing it.

A few of us run a website called T206Resource.com. You will be able to find a great deal of information about your cards there. For example where the American Beauty brand is located is scarcity among the other tobacco brands.

you can contact us directly from the site with any questions

my personal contact

stemmers37@yahoo.com

Jim Rivera

[mrvster]

Great to see you post!

Beig.....

thanks for sharing magee scan! yup, that's the one I need, but yours is a beauty!

I understand about trading ......... but if you ever decide to move a card, I'd be interested in that magee

please find wajo ! ab 350 nf

the resource is the best !

[barrysloate]

Bieg- Thanks for coming on and sharing that information. Has your wife ever considered getting the cards professionally graded? While it is not a necessity, it really wouldn't be a bad idea.

Regarding the Cobb, it looks like it would grade a 5 or a 6, maybe even a 5.5, who knows, and is likely worth some thing north of $5000. The most amazing thing about the collection, as Simeon said, is of course the condition. It's tough to keep them that nice for a hundred years.

[mrvster]

+ 1 what Barry said...

GET THEM SGC GRADED!

inmho....sgc the best......psa is second best(taste great less filling)

that will at least truly protect them and protect you....

please consider mr magee with bat for mrvster in any future(unless I get one sooner)

Please tell us how many 460 and 350 frame and no frames! we love to know

if you want

thanks again for sharing....we live for this stuff

[mrvster]

if your wife's uncle(rest his soul and THANK GOD he saved the cards).... was a drum or broadleaf smoker, you'd be planning your retirement right now

[Bieg]

She will NOT send them off somewhere out of her sight and I can't blame her. If and when she decides to sell them the auction house can grade them at that time.

As she is not a trader, buyer or seller the grading (other than having an idea what to insure them for which Roadshow gave her) is meaningless to her. I know that idea is heresy to you guys. Her point of view is they are wonderful, she loves to study them and just enjoys them for their beauty.

For what it is worth the photos are a true representation of the cards warts and all. No Photoshop tricks (other than compositing the front & back into one image) to pretty them up. You guys should be able to get a good idea of the quality

[Bieg]

Are there T202 Hassan Triple Folder experts here also?

My favorites are her T202s and they ALL are like this one below;

T202 (Ty Cobb Steals Third) H.Jennings-T.Cobb-001.jpg


Would this be the top grade in this series? Am I correct in assuming that they ALL were folded when they were in the pack of cigarettes or did these only come if you bought a carton and ones that have never been folded would be "mint"?

[mrvster]

I am a true collector.....I enjoy the cards like your wife does....I love to smell them, stare at them, find examples....

I appreciate the fact that she enjoys them for their true beauty, as I do...

I can appreciate where she's coming from....

my true suggestion, is have her enjoy them.....then, when it's time, pass them on to your kids, or like you said auction them off....but, JUST ENJOY THEM!

condition, for me, is really not an issue when it comes to collecting my cards....

actually, the uglier , the better

[mrvster]

"American Beauties!"

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Bieg

Are there T202 Hassan Triple Folder experts here also?

My favorites are her T202s and they ALL are like this one below;

Attachment 176239


Would this be the top grade in this series? Am I correct in assuming that they ALL were folded when they were in the pack of cigarettes or did these only come if you bought a carton and ones that have never been folded would be "mint"?

Yes Bieg, triplefolders are found only with the two folds between the end and center panels. But over time the folds will weaken and this will be apparent to the eye. That Cobb is gorgeous. Grading is tricky and is tough enough to do in person, but nearly impossible from a scan. It looks NRBMT or better (7 or 8), but the pros might feel otherwise.

I understand your wife's choice not to grade them, and that is fine. But you do not have to worry about letting the cards out of your sight. If you use any of the top companies, they won't steal them or switch them out. They will do it right. But you are correct any auction company will do it for you.

To answer a different questions, T206 was issued in series, and the 350's appeared before the 460's. I am not sure why there are both frame and no frame American Beauties, but I'm sure somebody here knows more than I do.

[btcarfagno]

Wonderful to hear from the original owners of this collection. I won't be of much help as I am a noob where T cards are concerned.

I am so glad to hear that your cards will remain as they were intended to be...raw. Some call graded cards "entombed" and there is a reason for that. There is absolutely something special to the ability to hold the actual card in your hand (or at least being able to take it from its plastic holder if you ever wanted to....definitely good to keep them safe in those at least).

There are many here with decades of knowledge at your disposal.

I'm pretty much just sitting here at work drooling all over the keyboard. At the scans. Not your wife. Although...



Tom C

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Bieg

She will NOT send them off somewhere out of her sight and I can't blame her. If and when she decides to sell them the auction house can grade them at that time.

As she is not a trader, buyer or seller the grading (other than having an idea what to insure them for which Roadshow gave her) is meaningless to her. I know that idea is heresy to you guys. Her point of view is they are wonderful, she loves to study them and just enjoys them for their beauty.

For what it is worth the photos are a true representation of the cards warts and all. No Photoshop tricks (other than compositing the front & back into one image) to pretty them up. You guys should be able to get a good idea of the quality

This is refreshing...and is the reason many of us got into vintage cards in the first place...for their beauty and historical interest...to us! Good for her. I hope if and when they are ever sold they are sold as a group...alhough this is not a likely scenario that they will ultimately stay together!