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Old 01-17-2015, 06:35 AM
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Jamie- I think someone gave you a killer deal on one of those, no?
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Old 01-17-2015, 08:53 AM
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the only 4 known yellow/br sc 460 F#30's....is just INSANE!

they are the only 4 backs known to exist!

congrats Jamie! you cornered the market on seymours
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:22 AM
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To answer your question.....

We are not sure yet....EITHER 1 or 2 SC 350-460 FACTORY #30 sheets escaped being destroyed......Chris Browne and I have been tracking then for a few years now......

Chris has gathered info about the examples that exist, the counts, and the scans..

IT 'S WILD SHIT


Basically, 1 or 2 sheets escaped the factory.....they were supposed to receive the factory #42 designation on the bottom, and the OVERSTRIKE to cover the "FACTORY #30".........the examples shown (except for the 6 super prints) ARE NOT AVAILABLE with that BACK! doesn't get cooler than that

basically, the stahl, elberfeld, street, Seymour, ames, downey, konetchy ECT ECT are NOT AVAILABLE or are "no prints!"

check T206RESOURCE.COM

in order to do a Seymour back run you need the missing "non production " back to truly kick it up a notch!!

like WONKA did with MURPHY, Jamie did with SEYMOUR, or SEAN with STREET......

REALLY amazing guys!

there are literally less yellow brown sc 460 factory 30's existing / known than BROADLEAF 460!


some have a "coffee" stain all over them/fire/ or water damage...(my Matty has BEEN toasted!) I own a stained street snodgras and a few other( 6 in total, waiting for the 7th!)

there is a rumor that some of these cards were in a fire/ water damage from a card shop fire in the 70's......

also, some have a "25" or "30" written in pencil on the back.....rumored to be in a binder .......these being sold at shows in the 70's for "25" and "30" dollars at the time.....


AMAZING HOW THESE SURVIVED! THE MOre stained / damaged , the more amazing the voyage over the century + mark! WOW!


these are missing pieces of history .....missing pieces of yesteryear.....tiny "puzzle" pieces to assemble a SHEET after over 100 years of wondering.....


these yellow browns have more significance than collectors even realize yet....

when Chris assembles a sheet like an archeologist after over 100 + years..... these puppies be sought after a little more.....


CONGRATS to who aquires one far.....no probably don't even know the significance yet, but will be rewarded......

Chris actually adds more VALUE to these everyday as he collects the scans to assemble....


I've already said too much
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:20 PM
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So Basically the conclusion is that these yellow scraps were unissued when they went to production?
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:09 PM
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They were to be scrapped, but a printer(s) took them home for his kids to play with. That's why they have all been cut by hand.
Apparently some were saved and handed down, and found their way into the hobby. Luckily for us.

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Old 01-18-2015, 08:55 PM
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Default Charlie and Sean....

this one is for you! one of my first scraps bought in early 2000....
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Old 01-21-2015, 09:02 AM
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Desperately trying to keep this thread alive for Johnny....

I own the Walsh Piedmont 150 scrap that sold in the Goodwin auction back in 2012. Unfortunately, I don't have a scan to post and I cannot easily access the card right now. I tried to pull the scan off the Goodwin website but the links for that particular auction aren't working correctly and the scan is not there (ugh!)

Do any of you print freak freaks have a scan of it by chance? If so, I'd greatly appreciate if someone could post it for me. (Chris?)

The card is definitely scrap because it's got the trademark crooked, hand cut borders and its missing multiple color passes. Though it's not a Sweet Caporal 350-460/30 No Scroll, its certainly worthy of being posting in this thread.

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Steve
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Steve

Is this it?
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Old 01-23-2015, 02:11 PM
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They were to be scrapped, but a printer(s) took them home for his kids to play with. That's why they have all been cut by hand.
Apparently some were saved and handed down, and found their way into the hobby. Luckily for us.
Sean: Your post answers a multitude of questions I have had regarding the T206 set, and I certainly bow to this board's expertise on "The Monster."

I have wondered why T206 scrap cards are not considered mis-prints, as per cards that are missing a color, etc. In fact, in the SGC graded cards on this thread, one sees "Color Variation"...so I assume that applies to both scrap and mis-prints (or missing color) cards?

I also wondered what constitutes a T206 scrap card; now I know from your post, and I also understand the rarity of such cards now (before I thought they were just printer errors with several out there....).

Thanks for the education! Always learning, which is greatness!
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Old 01-23-2015, 05:23 PM
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Default Jay.....

Great QUESTION!!

all scrap ARE hand cut and not issued in ANY packs!

never made it out to the public....only privy to the printers or the DUMPSTER!

AMAZING they survived....every one is like a precious snow flake and different...


they are all unique onto themselves....are all hand cut and NEVER NEVER can have a numerical grade.....


as for "color variation" SGC and PSA basically, just don't know how else to label THEM

they are that mysterious


but myself and a few others here have....

they are quite amazing.....please email me ANYONE with a scrap question...

I LOVE to answer THEM
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